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Pike County is in Region 4 of the Division of Family and Children Services, part of the Georgia Department of Human Services.

DFCS worker suspended

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Tuesday, December 27. 2011
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An employee of the Pike County Department of Family and Children Services has been suspended with pay after she was arrested by sheriff's deputies during an incident in Griffin. According to a Spalding County sheriff's report, Jeannie Griggers was arrested for criminal damage to property, second degree simple battery and disorderly conduct.

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#1 Just saying on 12/27/11 at 09:42 AM
A person in a position of authority should lead by example. I would have little respect for anyone in authority who got arrested for being disrespectful of the authority themself and certainly wouldn't want them telling me what I had to do.
#2 A. Nony Mouse on 12/27/11 at 10:48 AM
Employees of the state are just that... employees. It's 9-5. Whatever they do after hours so long as it does not affect their job performance should be none of the public's business. Crap happens to all of us in life and you can't expect someone to not have a bad day or not make mistakes just because they hold a job with the state.
#3 Anna Ford on 12/27/11 at 10:58 AM
Well well well...funny how those who think they are capable and qualified to judge or monitor the behavior of the parents in our communities are the very ONES who could use an anger management class or two themselves. Our (pike county) DFCS office is full of ill qualified and over paid, albeit over worked, employees who have no genuine care or concern for the families they claim to help. No wonder the DFCS workers Ms. Griggers 'supervised' (i.e. Renee Moore) behave and perform the way they do; apparently they have an exceptional mentor setting the bar extremely high. The case workers in that office have long gone UNSUPERVISED. They have been given free rein to make poor decisions, allow important issues to slip through the cracks, and prematurely close cases with no resolution or positive outcome. They shuffle paper and pass the buck without any risk of audit or being held accountable for their actions (or lack thereof as the case may be). I've heard it said that what goes around comes around - I believe this to be true. Sometimes we are fortunate enough to witness the fall from grace we knew was inevitable...how lucky I am to watch it unfold in a public forum such as this?
Signed: The mother of a child YOU didn't protect.
#4 walkin boss on 12/27/11 at 07:19 PM
This is nothing more than the mess that has existed for years. I encourage anyone truly abused by this system to speak up. People do not need to live in fear and should expect/receive better
#5 kathy s. on 12/27/11 at 07:34 PM
I agree with You #2 A.Nony Mouse. What a person does on her own time is her buisness.
I think it's a shame that the paper is making a big deal out of this.
#6 DJ Mom on 12/27/11 at 07:45 PM
I met Ms. Griggers in October. I found her to be not only professional and concerned about my children but my entire family as a group. She was blunt - and told me the truth. Painful - YES but I needed to hear it. She never belittled me or made me feel like a bad parent. I cannot say that for those that are handling her cases now. If I never saw a few of those "women", I would count myself very lucky. When she handled our case, calls were returned and I had updates. The person I'm having to deal with now is never available, never returns calls and could care less.
#7 Pike Patriot Leader on 12/27/11 at 07:49 PM
Pleeeeeze, I hope she lives in Pike County and in Tommy Powers district. Time for new "blood." Powers has worn out his health benefits card and welcome. She shows spunk and pride, just what we need on the BOC. You go girl.

"IN GOD WE TRUST"
#8 Great Auntie on 12/27/11 at 10:15 PM
Hey Anna, I know why this is making the news where you are. I am very close to the person who provided the details to the news staff. I know you are correct. The workers in this DFCS office have their own agenda. They are ripping families apart, in good homes due to their own malicious intentions. Apparently when they have an uneducated teen mom, it is open season to make unfounded accusations. When they find an adult in the home taking care and providing...they amp up the allegations. Sad that this lot is what we have to decided who is capable of raising children. Considering this particular example does not have any children. HHHmmm. Even more sad is that a Judge allowed this to carry on for God knows how long, and the judicial system continues to turn a blind eye. Anger management does not begin to cover it with Jeanie. I am with you though, she will get what she deserves, one way or another.
#9 Donna on 12/28/11 at 04:22 AM
And just who should they report it to? Do you think they have enough property to destroy, steal, or enough pet's to kill. Should they put their life on the line?

Those who know your 100% right are scared to do the right thing for fear of something happening to them.

I totally agree report it all and never leave out a name. Document everything.

Just some history: Howard signed the bond, Donna Johnson was abducted at a dumpster, Renee Smith was killed by dogs, and Helen Ann Morgan met a really nice guy. He was so great she left her child, home, car, and bank account.

Satanism and greed cover everything as long as there's enough to go around. $$$$cover-up$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$.

Yea! Report it to who? Just which snake should they go to?
#10 Karen on 12/28/11 at 07:13 AM
I 100% agree with you!!
#11 Nunya on 12/28/11 at 08:24 AM
Would you want this woman to babysit your grandkids? That's what she does as a DFCS social services manager. Arranges and attends visits with children in foster care. She also lies under oath, and rips families apart. It's not so much in Pike, but go to Upson, and you'll see her name in 80% of termination cases. She also runs a bonding company out of Meriwether County while being paid by the State, out of your tax dollars.
#12 Anonymous on 12/28/11 at 09:11 AM
Anyone I have ever known who has had to deal with DFACS had a bad experience. Especially my daughter. Trying to make this short- she got married, her husband has 2 boys, mother had custody. Her boyfriend beat on the boys, dfacs let father have them UNTIL a court hearing for him to get custody. That took a YEAR. Well, during that year, DFCS was supportive of her and hubby. BUT, when the court date got closer, they turned on them, saying that the kids should be allowed to be with the man that beat them, they tried to get bad info on my family to use against them to get the boys back to the mother in the abusive situation. In court, the judge let DFACS have it. He fussed at them, but that was all. The ONLY reason I can figure why they changed their tune - the beating boyfriend was black and they were scared he would sue them if they made the kids stay away from him.
My daughter and hubby does have custody thank God. BUT, the mother is using the kids on HER medicaid, welfare, food stamps and DFCS KNOWS this, and my daughter can NOT get help for them for these things because the kids are on the NON custodial parent account for food stamps, welfare, etc.
The only reason she wanted help (yes BOTH parents work) is that one of the children have health issues that they can't pay to get help for. And the abusive boyfriend and mother is NOT helping a bit to pay for this.
OH, this was spalding county.
#13 never u mind on 12/28/11 at 10:06 AM
LOL~ I was wondering why I got a call from DFCS last week when I have been trying to get someone to call me back for over a month. Looks to me like they might be trying to cover their hind quarters.
#14 Big John on 12/28/11 at 10:31 AM
Yous peoples needs to back offs this story! It is not the Gerry Sprinkler show. Their is nothing wrong with food stamps prigrom/ I get them muselves.

"IN GOD WE TRUST"
#15 anonymous on 12/28/11 at 10:45 AM
Everyone needs to get the true facts before passing judgement. If you think the job is so easy then you try to perform these very difficult duties.

I have first hand knowlege of the events of that evening and the facts have not been stated truthfully.
#16 Nunya on 12/28/11 at 11:35 AM
First hand knowledge of the events, means you're a friend of hers. Of course you would defend her. It's not an easy job, but you can't be a criminal and work for DFCS. If Jeanie was a new hire, she wouldn't make the cut with this charge pending, or if she's later convicted.
#17 Anonymous on 12/28/11 at 01:22 PM
That whole Pike Co DFCS office needs to be cleaned out. They are the rudest people I have ever met.
#18 Sheila Tolley on 12/28/11 at 01:40 PM
I applaud you Donna. I am so much in agreement with your sentence "Satanism and greed cover everything as long as there's enough to go around. $$$$cover-up$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$."

Can I have your new quote?

If greed could be erased from the last forty years, The United States would be phenomenal. Greed brings the drugs in, greed buys the politicians, greed exports our industries and jobs then imports the finished products that were PREVIOUSLY made here.

Does anyone realize how many people could go to work in the textile industry alone in the United States? It is too big a number to even imagine? It is a self-supporting product from the cotton ball to the customer putting the sheets on their bed, towels in the bath, clothes on their back, etc. BUT NO,NO,NO....we send the empty barges to China they fill them up with millions of COTTON products and send it back!!!

Sickening. Sickening. Sickening.

I absolute think we need to shake The United States like a giant etch-a-sketch and start all OVER.

Most people now....born since 1970....have no idea what a mill village is? Do a survey. Any person who can tell you that it was small houses on small lots built close to the mills (practically walking distance) very little, or no gasoline needed........give them a ball of cotton.

I think before anyone can toss their hat into the presidential Circle of Insanity, it should be mandatory that they present their plan to bring the textile industry back to the US of A!!!!!

Construction workers, machinist, architects, seamstresses, sewing machine factories, farmers, plumbers, truck drivers, packers, inspectors, supervisors, computer technicians, sandwich shops,etc. COME ON DOWN.

But guess what? As soon as the location of a new industry "leaks (yeah right) out!" Some rich bass*tard with brown bags of money and the handshake of a few commissioners, will buy that land, triple the selling price, hire his own illegal immigrant construction workers to build mill villages and here we go again!

We gotta find that barge that sailed from The White House many years ago. Our morals, jobs, hearts, values, self-esteem for our youth, and future are on it!!!

For a cheap sheet and a mass produced computer, they gave away our country.

I seldom use the word HATE, and God will pay me back...........but I HATE the greedy thieves that gave away the country that I helped build for my Grand Babies. HATE THEM. (Please forgive me, Jesus.)

I truly challenge anyone to tell me why this project should not be implemented!!!!!

"Satanism and greed cover everything as long as there's enough to go around. $$$$cover-up$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$$$cover-up$$$$$."
-Donna-
#19 Sheila Tolley on 12/28/11 at 01:58 PM
Oh yeah, God gives us the natural resources to grow cotton. All the resources....land, climate, things that cannot be bought. We grow it and ship it across the world to keep the unemployment rate of other countries down. We are self made idiots to have allowed this to happen. Be sure your grand babies are bilingual, because they will be working in another country or getting fat in this one until until the other countries decide they need some slave labor. I hope you do not think this is impossible or too far in the future. If so, pinch yourself and wake up!


U.S. EXPORT SALES FOR WEEKENDING 12/21/2011

Cotton: Net Upland sales of 69,500 running bales for the 2011/2012 resulted as increases for China (78,300 RB, including 3,100 RB switched from Malaysia and 1,300 RB switched from South Korea), Vietnam (6,600 RB), Bangladesh (4,400 RB), Hong Kong (4,400 RB, including 2,200 RB switched from China), Morocco (3,900 RB), and Venezuela (2,200 RB), were partially offset by decreases for Japan (7,800 RB), Thailand (7,200 RB), Pakistan (6,600 RB), and Indonesia (6,200 RB). Exports for own account were reported for China (10,500 RB). Net sales of 15,400 RB for delivery in 2012/2013 were reported for China. Exports of 191,100 RB were up 10 percent from the previous week and from the prior 4-week average. The primary destinations were China (88,600 RB), Turkey (32,700 RB), Mexico (16,300 RB), South Korea (10,000 RB), Taiwan (9,200 RB), and Thailand (5,100 RB). Net American Pima sales of 3,400 RB were down 39 percent from the previous week and 3 percent from the prior 4-week average. Increases reported for China (6,300 RB) and Pakistan (800 RB), were partially offset by decreases for Japan (3,700 RB). Exports of 25,000 RB--a marketing-year high--were reported mainly to China (9,000 RB), India (6,500 RB), Pakistan (3,500 RB), Germany (1,900 RB), Japan (1,400 RB), and South Korea (1,100 RB).
#20 Sheila Tolley on 12/28/11 at 02:05 PM
Anyone who is employed in jobs that give them access to children, should be required to wear a cap-cam with speakers. Just like ankle bands that cannot be turned off or disconnected. If they have a problem with that, they don't need that job.

(Any parent who abuses their child should just be KILLED!)
#21 duke on 12/28/11 at 02:54 PM
Spalding Co. SO Case Number :76096. Available via Opens records Act request. Seems pretty much spot on to what's printed.
#22 walkin boss on 12/28/11 at 05:22 PM
Ms Sheila
There are systemic problems here. A Pop's store approach to mngt. Which is hopefully coming to an end. I hope I soon see the pharisees thrown out, a new SAaG and a revamp of the guardian ad litem system.Anything less is unacceptable. Right is right, anything else is personal agenda and profit.
#23 John the Baptist on 12/28/11 at 05:30 PM
Good lord Sheila why don't you give it a rest. Your mouth runs more than the sewer pipes in Atlanta. You are a constant Blabber that has no meaning.
#24 Cat Baller on 12/28/11 at 05:38 PM
You have never met rude people until you attend a Planning Board meeting or Appeals Board. It is one thing to be rude but dumb and rude is just over the limit.

"IN CATNIP WE TRUST"
#25 Anonymous on 12/28/11 at 07:14 PM
whats the big deal about blood slinging, anyway? i like to sling blood around in my free time, too.
#26 Donna on 12/28/11 at 08:25 PM
I was the one who ask who they should report it to. Reporting anything around here is definitely the wrong thing to do. The more you try to get help the more they do to you or your pets and property. Around here their to busy trying to cover each others tail.

Buy the way did you get your paralegal off again?
#27 Serpico on 12/28/11 at 09:04 PM
I find it odd that the papers usually report arrest for people every week, but this happened some time ago and just now came to light? Also, it is odd that it was not mentioned that Ms. Griggers was also the supervisor for Upson DFCS. It makes me wonder about the other comment regarding her running a bonding agency on DFCS time. I guess that will never be investigated. Also, whose home was the incident in? How do we know childern were not present? What was the relationship with Ms. Griggers and the victim? I guess the people in power in small town government don't face justice like the rest of us.
#28 One who knows on 12/28/11 at 10:22 PM
As one who has worked with Ms. Griggers, I would like to make the following comments:
State employees may be "just employees," but working at DFCS is never a 9 to 5 job. One is on call even when not officially on the on call schedule. As far as the paper making a "big deal," out of this, this incident happened almost a month ago and it's high time someone made a big deal out of this and much more. For starters, Ms. Griggers was caught numerous times in compromising situations with a subordinate inside the Pike Co. office causing complaints from other workers witnessing these events to complain of sexual harrassment. When this was brought to the attention of Director Resa Price along with information Ms. Griggers had been falsifying records, it was not turned over to the state for investigation but instead handled "in house," by Ms. Price. Oh, did I mention Ms. Price and Ms. Griggers (despite statements to the contrary by Ms. Price) are personal friends? Ms. Price and Ms. Griggers have attended at least one Alabama/Auburn football game together as well as Ms. Price singing at Ms. Griggers' neice's wedding. Sounds like conflict of interest to me.
In response to Ms. Ford's comment about ill-qualified and over-paid, with no genuine concern for families, I would just like to say it is not fair to make generalizations about everyone in that office based on one or two person's behavior. I personally know and have worked with several of the people in that office and know how much they do care and work many long hours with no recognition or appreciation from management. As far as being over paid, a starting teacher makes more than a social worker with DFCS and the social worker has no potential for an increase without an MSW. Services workers have also been furloughed one day a month for the last 2 1/2 years (I believe teachers only had three furlough days) and while the pay was reduced accordingly, the workload was not. If anything it was increased. And yes, Great Auntie, the management does have it's own agenda. A very good example of such would be the Foster Care supervisor, Liz Fordham, hand picking children with the greatest chance of being available for adoption to place with personal friends.
A little over a year ago, a foster care worker ws terminated for alleged insubordination when she left a meeting with Director Price and then Foster Care supervisor Liz Fordham in tears to pull herself together. Previously, then case worker Griggers, had cussed Director Price out during a staff meeting causing Ms. Price to leave the room in tears herself. Not only was Ms. Griggers not fired, but was later promoted to Social Services Supervisor.
And yes, up until Ms. Griggers sold her bonding company, it was a well known fact in the Upson County DFCS office that she conducted her personal business with the bonding company on state time.
#29 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 07:33 AM
Will you please put that in simpler terms for me.........it sounds like that legal language that judges and lawyers use. I think you may agree with me...kinda...sorta...BUT you are just too smart and educated to understand. Please simplify it for this old woman.

Many Thanks,

Sheila
#30 I wish Sheila Would quit posting in 2012 on 12/29/11 at 08:04 AM
She makes me about Barf everytime I read her know it all posts. Geesh give it a rest. Wait here comes Fat Butt Turd with a rebutal. Geesh
#31 duke on 12/29/11 at 08:48 AM
Read the incident report from SCSO. Lists the resident and that at least one person under 21 was present. And this is getting air time on thomaston radio.
#32 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 08:59 AM
It seems that you can slide with sewer language...but I will clean my unposted one up for you. Do you buy and read books that you do not like? Why do you continue to read blogs by an author that you hate? You are a genius.
#33 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 09:02 AM
$25 will not stop the mighty Sheila.....but greedy people like you will FADE,fade away.
#34 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 09:05 AM
Shake, shake, shake that DFCS etch-a-sketch and start over.
#35 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 09:15 AM
Oh yeah, I just figured it out. You are a purger. Don't be using my blogs as a free diet plan, Buddy. Mine should cost more than Jenny Craig to you...because you obviously cannot resist it.

Slam dunk!
#36 Book reader on 12/29/11 at 09:20 AM
Shelia, I know you are self centered, but you are NOT the 'author' of this blog. Reading this blog can not be compared to reading a book since there are so many different writers. I may not be a genius, but I also know that you're not either.
#37 Book Reader I agree on 12/29/11 at 09:53 AM
Now thru Sheilas own words she is claiming to be a AUTHOR?? Wow what a load of crap. Listen Sheila your stuff is almost always non thought out personal garbage opinion stuff by you. You are the person at a meeting that people look around and think would that person just SHUT UP! So we can discuss more important things. You and your Fat Bream Turd Brother the same thing. This board would be so much better without you two.!
#38 fat bass tard on 12/29/11 at 10:46 AM
it's amazing how much i've gotten under your skin. you can't post a single thing without mentioning me.

i know it's difficult for you. i understand that you feel like you have no worth and can't discuss anything with your own ideas. it's difficult for you to go through life without a single relevant thought. keep reading my and sheilas posts. i'm sure in time, you will come up with something original. it won't be good; but, at least it will be original.

by the way, the one sure way to let someone know that you've been bested is to continually call them names. i've obviously bested you on multiple occasions since you can't do anything else.

keep working on that independent thought. i'm sure with your intellect, you will have something in a year or two.
#39 Anonymous on 12/29/11 at 11:27 AM
Right, maybe she was practicing for finger painting with the children she is in charge of during the day.

So she gets a paid vacation for this?
#40 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 11:54 AM
Let me make it simpler for your totally slick, wrinkle free brain to comprehend.

author [aw-ther]  
Definition: composer of written work
Synonyms: biographer, columnist, composer, creator, essayist, ghost, ghostwriter, ink slinger, journalist, originator, playwright, poet, producer, prose writer, reporter, scribbler, scribe, scripter, word slinger, wordsmith, work-for-hire, writer

Main entry: compose
Synonyms: author , bang out, cast, clef, coin a phrase, comp, conceive, contrive, cook up, design, devise, discover, draw up, dream up, fabricate, forge, form, formulate, frame*, fudge together, ghost*, ghostwrite, imagine, indite, invent, knock off, knock out, make up, note down, orchestrate, originate, pen, poetize, produce, push pencil, put down, put pen to paper, score, scribble, script, set type, set up, time, turn out, whip up, write
Notes: compose is preferred when the parts of the whole being assembled are regarded as nonconcrete and more general; when the parts are concrete and specific, then constitute is more appropriate, and then there is comprise , which can mean 'comprehending or encompassing certain parts'

Main Entry: create
Synonyms: actualize, author , beget, bring into being, bring into existence, bring to pass, build, cause to be, coin, compose, conceive, concoct, constitute, construct, contrive, design, devise, discover, dream up, effect, erect, establish, fabricate, fashion, father, forge, form, formulate, found, generate, give birth to, give life to, hatch, imagine, initiate, institute, invent, invest, make, occasion, organize, originate, parent, perform, plan, procreate, produce, rear, set up, shape, sire, spawn, start

Now Grapefruit brain, pick out any word you like or can understand, from the list above and substitute it in the following question that I previously ask.

Why do you continue to read blogs by an/a ------ that you hate? You aren't smart enough to answer are you?

And about that spelling of my name that is directly in front of you.........

"I before E, except after C" and in Genius names like Einstein and me."
#41 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 12:05 PM
I swear on my families graves that I do not know the identity of fat bass tard. I have often thought myself that he may know me or be kin to me because........the AUTHOR writing under his signature is outstanding. Whoever the person is, I never want to know the real identity. It makes my life interesting to have an intelligent and humorous person who so many people connect with me, and I do not even know who he is. I never want to know his real identity. BUT I wish he would run for president.

By the way, Grapefruit Head II, why do you continue to read my comments?
#42 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 12:07 PM
Why don't you go baptize yourself? I'll tell you when to raise your head out of the water.
#43 Book reader on 12/29/11 at 12:33 PM
My brain is not completely wrinkle free, as YOU so comedically claim. I did not say you are not an author altogether, I said you ARE not THE sole author of this blog (regardless of the number of thesaurus entries you copied and pasted) and that your comparison to reading your comments here vs. reading a book by an unappealing author is a FAILURE. I've left you a hidden message HERE and I will now cut communications with you since it is as unappealing as talking to the author of the Sheila Tolley autobiography.
#44 Anon2 on 12/29/11 at 01:01 PM
1st- how was someone with an obvious "alternative" lifestyle and no children permitted to be the supervisor of a unit like this? Also, this arrest came at the home of another DFCS worker who she was alledgely have a relationship with...
2nd- its my understanding from a source inside DFCS that more children have been removed from their home while Ms. Griggers was in charge than any other
3rd- why didn't someone within the department question when Ms Griggers, the DFCS worker (who's home she was arrested) and Tammy Griener the DFCS attorney (who is basically contracted to DFCS) went on vacation together in May
(you can look at the attorney generals site and a disportionate amount of money is being paid to Ms Griener vs the other contracted attorneys in the area)
#45 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 01:18 PM
You will be back as another stupid sign on......cowards don't cut communications, they change identities.
#46 Anonymous on 12/29/11 at 01:52 PM
Sounds like Pike needs its own Director here in Pike County.
#47 duke on 12/29/11 at 02:29 PM
1)Your federal government and non discrimination laws.
2) probably dorrect
3) Griner has run rough shod for a while.This was the the topic of a DHR investigation.
#48 Sheila Tolley on 12/29/11 at 04:47 PM
Of coarse I copied and pasted it, how many encyclopedia salesmen have knocked on your door lately?
#49 duke on 12/29/11 at 05:49 PM
Btw; why is it that Griggers, Griner , et al know that a 20 year old has impregnated at least 1, possibly 2, 15 year olds and no action taken ? And btw: Ms Price inherited a nightmare and is doing what she can to correct problems w/out proper support from her state level folks. That is why Pike folks need to support integrity restoration in that office.
#50 Concerned Citizen on 12/29/11 at 06:28 PM
I am citizen of Pike County and in reading this article and the subsequent comments that followed,this one has me most concerned. It appears that this writer "One who knows" is a current employee with the state and it also suggest that "One who knows" is also giving out information that would be otherwise considered confidential. It's also evident in the comments later written by "Anon2" that the "one who knows" is also talking openly in public about this information. If this is the case and I beleive that it is, this employee should be fired immediately. Whether any of the allegations are true and I would speculate that most are not it is disturbing that this could be allowed. No, let me say that what is more disturbing is this person is willing to give out information about employees think about what she is telling the public about cases that are handled within the DFCS Office. It appears to me that the "one who knows" is a busy body who has nothing better to do than to spread gossip whether its true or not. I would hope that Ms. Price, would investigate and find out who this person is and deal with them accordingly.
#51 Satisfied on 12/29/11 at 07:56 PM
For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all.

Luke 8:17
#52 Anon2 on 12/29/11 at 08:07 PM
Duke,
1) I can understand that; but if she was the most qualified for the job, what does that say about the rest of them.
2) if that placement rate was correct and an extreme jump under this supervisor; why didn't bells and whistles go off somewhere?
3) if DHR investigated Griner- what were the results? if I went on vacation with one of my contractors I wouldn't have a job period and from what I understand Griggers could assign cases to whichever attorney she chose.
#53 Anonymous on 12/29/11 at 09:50 PM
Obviously confidentiality is very important, but what information was given out that violated it? I beleive no one on here has mentioned any case or children's names. I don't beleive anything stated would be covered under any form of confidentiality I know of. I think everyone should be free to express what they think is happening in there work place under the first admendmant excepet for specific instances of confidentiality or privacy acts under the law, none of which appear to be violated here.

Not being an employee of DFCS I don't know how true everything said is, bu I find the accusations made here on face value disturbing. I would hope they would be investigated by both the media and the state. It is my humble opinion what you call a "busy body" many may call a whistle blower. I would encourage anyone with knowledge about corruption to come forward not just in a message board but in any way they can. Seek whistle blower status if one can.

What I also find disturbing more than message board chatter is what appears to be a threat posted by managment or an associtate there of to silence someone. I have always heard if you haven't done anything wrong you don't have to worry about what people say.

I just hope whatever the truth is it comes out.
#54 An equally concerned citizen on 12/29/11 at 10:22 PM
I'm curious. None of the information disclosed by Anon2 was the same as what was stated by One who knows so why is it you believe One who knows has been talking to Anon2? Do you believe there is only one person who knows all of this corruption is going on between these two counties or that only current employees would know this stuff? I doubt that is the case. Also, what specifically do you think is a breech in confidentiality? Some of your comments sound a little threatening if you ask me.
#55 duke on 12/30/11 at 04:42 AM
Good points all around.it has been a wreck and some of the long time players have protectors high in the dfcs corporation. Notice that dfcs state directors have a very short shelf life ? Maybe the cleaning out needs to start at the bottom up instead of the reverse.
#56 Sheila Tolley on 12/30/11 at 09:05 AM
BS,BS,BS, etc. "One who knows" is telling the facts. I guarantee you. Known as a Whistle Blower. These facts should be investigated and made public by the paper. The only people who would shy from this investigation is someone with something to hide.

Pass out more whistles! God Bless you "one who knows." Anybody else know something that you are afraid to tell?

smtolley@comcast.net

Your name will never be told. In fact, you do not even need to tell me your name. Make it the truth please!
#57 Sheila Tolley on 12/30/11 at 09:20 AM
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Think about it!
#58 Anonymous on 12/30/11 at 10:16 AM
I don't know Duke what kind of situation Laresa Price inherited, but what I do know is that she is in charge of these counties and therefore the one responsible for the good and the bad. The question is just how much.

If Ms. Griggers was running a business on state time and getting paid by the state while doing another job, was Ms. Price aware of it. Did she allow it or facillitate in covering it up in anyway. Did Liz Fordham or any other person in managment have knowledge of it and act in a complicite way regarding the fraud? Did they approve time sheets they know to be false? I don't know, but it should be found out. We are not talking at this point of just a rouge employee after hours at this point. It sounds like suspicion of criminaly defrauding the state.

If Ms. Price is friends with Ms. Griggers and has allowed her to cuss her out in front of employees and behave in other ways that she has not allowed others to behave or even fired people for then it would sound like wrongful termination and a hostile work environment.

If Ms. Griggers did have an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate and anyone in managment was aware of it and did nothing, than they are negligent. The question would have to be asked was the subordinate given special treatment, premoted or benefit from the relationship? If so then everyone aware above them should be held accountable.

If Ms. Griggers relationships have led to over paying of state contracted individuals, ignouring of child abuse, or removal of children unneccisarily then the question is where was managment? At the end of the day Ms. Price is in charge, this is her staff. Why was it allowed to happen if it did? Are these people all covering for each other, is it a big cover up or negligence? If it happened.
I don't know the truth about these allegations. I'm just asking questions, but if these allegations are true somebody(s) does. I think it is about time someone answered these questions. If the allegations are found to be true people need to go to jail. I know the people deserve a DFCS office that has intigrity and honor because it is important work. I think it is time to demand it. We should know one way or another about these allegations.

I am encouraging everyone who cares and feels like me to contact the governors office and/or Fox 5 and demand an investigation.We desereve a resolution to these claims. I would also urge anyone with knowledge of corruption to come forward to contact these numbers or the local papers.

Governors office: 404-656-1776
Fox 5 news tip line: 404-898-0100

All it will take for evil to triump is for good people to do nothing.
#59 duke on 12/30/11 at 12:06 PM
Good points, anony. I believe there are other inquiries into the goings on in the Pike office and Upson as well as Pike is more like a sub station of Thomaston now. I am assurred that people from the ouside are in the process of looking in. I agree, also, that there are good decent staff in Pike. The few loose cannons are the ones making the headlines - ain't that the way things seem to go. bad news: too much "stuff" going on for too long. Good news: it's getting to the right folks to clean it up. It will take time, I'm afraid. And let the chips lie where they fall. The welfare of Pike's families are too important otherwise.
#60 Sheila Tolley on 12/31/11 at 10:33 AM
No. You are the failure here. But the real reason you are leaving is because you are too cheap to pay SIX cents a day for blog access.
You have shown by example that you are not competent enough to answer the simple question that I always ask?

Why do you continue to read my comments?
#61 Anonymous on 12/31/11 at 08:38 PM
yall need to include Spalding in this, they are horrible too
#62 A-no-no on 01/01/12 at 12:09 PM
Sheila did you know that you have 40 to 50% of all posts on the PCJ? You even answer yourself sometimes. You are truly mad.
#63 ?Questioning on 01/01/12 at 09:11 PM
Was the person she was having the relationship with, one of her subordinates? How can we see the Sheriff's report on-line?
#64 Sheila Tolley on 01/02/12 at 08:47 AM
Dern! Only half? Thanks for the update. I will blog more, I promise.

Is Anonymous and Various Stupid Names and Sentences running second?
#65 Sheila Tolley on 01/02/12 at 08:54 AM
Actually, John Boy, I type and read without moving my mouth. I can multitask like that.

'cause i am a smart wittle thang.'
#66 In the know on 01/03/12 at 08:09 AM
Yes it was Renee Moore.
#67 HAG on 01/03/12 at 10:19 AM
Ok, i'm sorry but some people deserve a hard time from DFACS. If you've had your children taken, then you obviously have issues.

Secondly, i've been a foster parent with Pike/Upson and haven't had a single problem with anyone there. Everyone has always been very professional and easy to work with. And every child i've ever fostered was definately needing to be removed from the bio parents home.

Making all these hard-working case-workers out to be the devil is unfair. They work long hours and are way underpaid for what they go through.
#68 2 cents worth on 01/03/12 at 10:30 AM
The issues at Pike DFCS go back further than this incidence. LaResa Price has swept many things under the rug in her time at Pike. I would imagine the same goes on in Upson DFCS, but have no personal knowledge. If the public knew what really goes on in that back office in Pike, she would be sent packing.
#69 Anonymous on 01/03/12 at 01:16 PM
As with any organization, you have the good, the bad and the ugly. The OFI workers at Pike are outstanding! Two of the CPS workers are outstanding! They should have a lot more recognition than they will ever get.

Even so,"One bad apple spoils the bunch." I would say in regards to Pike DFCS, 2 or 3 bad apples spoil the bunch. If anyone ever dug deep enough, they would find the bad seed(s).

To the responsible workers...we give you praise for your LONG hours, stressful load of carrying two or more counties at a time, working without a raise in 4+ years, enduring furloughs while smiling and saying, "at least I have a job." :-/ I would LOVE to name names here. I would love to post on the front page of the newspaper, "Pike County DFCS has some of the most dedicated, hard-working, honest, dependable, caring, compassionate, under paid, under appreciated workers hands down!" Tis true!

...but the bad seeds remain...
#70 You have got to be kidding me on 01/03/12 at 02:05 PM
I don't beleive that for one second and anyone who knows Ms. Moore would actually find this comical.I am not a friend of hers or Ms. Griggers but speculation hurts people and their families. I would hope that this isn't the case.
#71 An OFI worker on 01/03/12 at 09:48 PM
Thank you so much for your support and caring. It has been a difficult time for us and the people we serve. May God bless you.
#72 Disappointed on 01/03/12 at 10:29 PM
I would like to comment on a few things. First to the comment starting that Tammy Griner's pay is disproportionate to any other attorney - this may have something to do with the fact that she covers three counties. I have seen her in action and if there is one thing I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt she knows her stuff! When she walks into a court room she knows the case as well as the case worker and is prepared.
In addition I wonder why it is that the public is just now hearing about this when it happened several months ago.....
When you are in a position of authority you should carry yourself in an appropriate manner and it is obvious neither of these women have done that.
Obviously if the matter had been handled properly when brought to the supervisors attention then we might not be reading about this is the first place.
Their are good honest people that work in the pike office that I have had the pleasure to have dealt with however since that office and upson county have merged it has been a nightmare. Since Pike is basically a sub station now no one can help you from that office you will be directed to Upson. The people are rude and you are directed to someones voice mail....please don't hold your breath for a call back anytime soon. I wonder if there is even a supervisor in Pike anymore...
I can say that I thought that the days of "Clicks" was limited to school days however by the looks of this that is not the case. We have grown women using their authority for all the wrong reasons.
I know that the Pike office has just a few people -I can think of two people that truly have the right intentions and heart for what they do - protect the children. They work long hours and sacrifice their own children and families in order to fill their work obligations. They are never off work - it is 24/7....overpaid you say? I say they are not paid enough. I pray that they are not casualties in this due to a few people who have made bad decisions or just as sad...made no decisions by sweeping things under the rug.....time to clean a little house.
#73 Anonymous on 01/06/12 at 07:26 AM
Everything raises and falls on leadership.

If LaResa wants the pay, then she needs to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!! You don't just get to swish your little skirt around in front of the "right" people to get your way.

It may be a temporary fix, but not a moral one.
#74 bravo Raven on 01/07/12 at 12:03 PM
If your looking to report or talk of incidents pertaining to the wrong doing of these people taking children from homes based on prefabricated lies and hearsay. while tammy grinner keeps it tied up in court on them facts call me I got the report And I dont work for defax. she obviously made defax her personel cash cow to keep punching the clock keeping it tied in court riping babbies from there homes for 6 mths, I raised 7 kidds no defax envolvement trained as a soldier to defend men woman and children who cant defend for themselfs and saying any child around me is deprived is a bogus lie, That spells slander am i wrong also defimation of carector,mental anguish, if things arnt corrected soon I will be looking for someone to take up a class action suite, you can reach me at p.o. box 607 williamson ga 30292 lies dont beat the truth but enough of you have to quit being scared, charlie oneal still waiting for the court order to see you at the bar and miss pice better get on your job and quit letting miss grinner do your job for you if that isnt a conflict of intrest what is jean is 1 and the rest of you i want, you didnt start a fight you started a war. Thoe i have to comply dont mean I cant also fight NE DESET VIRTUS and you people that write me your names will be secluded unless i have your permission time to stand up also for those who cant, again these are Gods children not tammy Grinners and her unterouge you all did this behind the color of the law abusing power and athourity you will answear for it here ,Heaven or hell our loving father will see to it now you know who to contact I got the best attorney in the state and we will take all the help we get including thanks to all people and resources cant thank you all enough who have the courage to stand against such a big injust God will reward you if i cant,
#75 Anonymous on 01/08/12 at 05:30 PM
That is not true!!!!! How dare you say she just "swished her skirt" to get out of trouble? Did you see it? Besides if something like that happened she would more likely stick out her chest! Get it right.
#76 Sheila Tolley on 01/08/12 at 08:33 PM
My daddy told me don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about.
#77 Anonymous on 01/08/12 at 08:53 PM
Thank you!! I have worked for DFCS for the last 30 years. It is time for me to retire. Things are just getting bad out there.
#78 Johnny Jones on 01/08/12 at 11:05 PM
Hate to jump on the Tammy Griner and Charles Oneal bandwagon, but would like to put it out there that they have empowered my teenage son for the last 2 years and my case plan was completed 2 years ago. I am a middle class person that has been employed for 28 years with the same job, work for the Federal Government, and if I was that bad of a person I would not have kept that job. If anything my child has been spoiled and is very educated on how to manipulate the system. Just because my child does not want to come home (because he will have to go by my rules in my household in which he is currently considered a poor little juvenile who has outsmarted and outwitted the entire team of the Spalding County DFCS.) Tammy Griner is nothing shy of a showboat in the courtroom who is trying to make a name for herself and only certain judges will allow her to be the showboat that she is. I would love to see her run her mouth and be as arrogant as she is in front of Judge Ben Miller.. (Ha Ha, Don't think that is going to happen) As far as Charlie Oneal goes, he talks worse then any sailor I have ever met and I served in the US Navy. And he has the audacity to do this in front of the children and so called juveniles that he is supposedly representing. If there was ever an organization that needs to be reformed in the State of Georgia, it is the Department of Family and Children Services. Thanks to Tammy Griner and Charlie Oneal they placed my son into what they called "the good bells" foster home. After about a 10 month period, they had to go in and remove all four children in that home because of sexual allegations that the 40-something year old foster mom was having with my son. If this was "the good bells" I sure would hate to see the bad ones. But Tammy Griner and Charlie Oneal said that this was in the best interest of the child that he be placed there. My child is still empowered by DFACS to not return to his biological parent simply because he doesn't want to come home and face my rules. It took 21 months for me to even speak face to face with my son with NO visitation whatsoever during this period because of Tammy Griner, Charlie Oneal and DFACS. Even child molesters are allowed supervised visitation with their children. I have my entire case file and all documents to back up my statements. Anyone who needs to reach me concerning the removal of Tammy Griner from the DFACS system or taking the right of being a guardian ad litem away from Charlie Oneal I will do all I can to help in this matter. These people make future criminals out of these children and eventually welfare recipients because they think that the Georgia State taxpayers owe them everything. I was even told by one DFACS supervisor (Sharon Gilmore) and I quote "I do not give a flip about the taxpayers dollars". These are the people we now have in charge of our money and they spend it knowing there are NO consequences to face. My email is jjones416@ymail.com - I look forward to helping anyone who can help clean up this local DFACS system we have in Spalding, Lamar, Pike & Upson Counties. Someone needs to take away their blank checks that they receive from taxpayers and learn to use COMMON SENSE and stop empowering children who know how to play the system.
#79 Sheila Tolley on 01/09/12 at 09:06 AM
My Mama told me... I am so witty that people who cannot think on their own will use my name "because of pure jealousy."
That lady is always right. What shade of green are your eyes?

Jealousy is like drinking poison and waiting on the other person to die.

If it helps your self-esteem, feel free to continue to use my name. They make colored contacts now to help you conceal your little problem.
#80 Sheila Tolley on 01/09/12 at 09:09 AM
We have the hags and the hag nots in every government owned organization.
#81 anon. on 01/09/12 at 09:41 AM
Can barely understand you.
#82 a-no-no on 01/09/12 at 02:21 PM
You are answering yourself again. Do you know how disturbing that is?
#83 Donna Smith on 01/09/12 at 04:58 PM
I would like to point out that Sheila Tolley insults every normal poster on this sight everytime she posts a comment. Sheila leave us alone. This sight was meant to add aditional information on the news stories. She and Fat waste of time take something away from everybody who has something kind, relevant and helpfull to say.
#84 100% Supporter on 01/09/12 at 10:32 PM
DS, no pun intended on your initials. Read your hate and disgust you post. You need to back off Ms. Tolley. Her computer is more powerful than your sword. Shame on you DS. Now that pun was intended. I am putting your name in our prayer circle this Wednesday night.
#85 Rugg Burnes on 01/09/12 at 11:32 PM
"She and Fat waste of time take something away from everybody who has something kind, relevant and helpfull to say."
...Huh?..and your point is? Where is the kindness, relevancy and helpfulness in your post? Why are you attracted to Tolley's and FBT's posts and feel as though they are personally directed towards you? Skim over them like I do. Does your OCD nature compel you to comment. huh?
#86 knowsthe feeling on 01/10/12 at 12:11 PM
I so agree with you...I myself have had this happen to me personally & steal fighting to get my kids back...Jennie Griggers & Renee Moore took my kids from & wonderful loving home that I provided them & not to mention they did not lack for anything...I have had DEFACS in my life 1 year to date...these people proclaim to want to protect children, its BULL...they have there own hidden motives. Jennie Griggers is a very angry person that somehow feels she needs to take it out on families that dont deserve it & i do believe she will get what she deserves...I pray everyday that this nightmare will come to an end very soon...we were suppose to go back to court Jan 5th but it got pushed up to the 31st b/c of both Jennie & Renea being terminated...these two ladies should have never held that job title b/c theres certain jobs where you need to set an example & act a certain way & if you cant then find another job...these 2 people are an disgrace if you ask me!!!
#87 Desbelief on 01/11/12 at 10:47 AM
The people of Upson and Pike are calling for resignation of the Director. This person should be forced to step down.
#88 Sheila Tolley on 01/11/12 at 11:52 AM
Love it...but do not expect an answer. They can never explain why they read my posts. They just stupidly read them and continue to hate them...why?

I believe they are addicts and consider my blogs potent drugs.
#89 Sheila Tolley on 01/11/12 at 11:53 AM
LOL and mighty clever.
#90 Anonymous on 01/11/12 at 12:50 PM
Thanks so much for helping people and to make your story known. The Griffin DFACS really hurt my daughter and family. This was around 2004. Her husband has 2 boys that their mother had custody of until they said her boyfriend was beating them and she allowed it. As soon as this was reported, DFACS let their father have them 'temporarily' until custody was settled. This took a WHOLE year. We were all grateful they were taken out of that situation. DFACS in Griffin was pretty decent with this at first. They said the children needed protecting, they could even be killed by this person. BUT, when it come down to the last few months before the court hearing for custody, they started coming to my daughters house intimidating, harrasing her. They said that they will make sure the children are back with their mother and abuser. They did not give a reason. They said the abuser just needs a chance. THe only reason I could think of for this is that he is black and they were scared of getting sued. At the hearing, the judge let DFACS have it for their behavior. It did no good, I see. In fact,my daugher recently tried to get medicaid because one of the boys has serious health issues, DFACS said she couldn't get it because the non custodial mother has medicaid for them and they are NOT living with her, she is NOT using the medicaid for them! They KNOW this and do not care!! I told my daughter she should fight this, but for now she has enough trouble on her plate and doesn't have the strength for it.
#91 Reader on 01/11/12 at 04:01 PM
Is your daughter one of those gifted single parents? How do they do that?
#92 Anonymous on 01/11/12 at 08:42 PM
No, if you read my comment again, she is MARRIED. how does she do what??
#93 Sheila Tolley on 01/12/12 at 11:45 AM
I am a Siamese twin. Both of us blog.
#94 duke on 01/12/12 at 12:56 PM
Griggers was terminated 1/11/12.
#95 Anonymous on 01/12/12 at 03:42 PM
Griggers was not the "Director." That would be LaResa Price, who also needs to be terminated.
#96 Anonymous on 01/12/12 at 10:36 PM
And investigated for conspiracy to defraud the government if she signed what she knew to be false time sheets. And if she helped cover up falsefication of records.

Time to end the chronism!!!!!!!!!!!
#97 Anon on 01/13/12 at 12:08 AM
There is no protection for whistle blowers all the state office does is fire whistle blowers and then sweep it under the table. dfcs once was a true child protective office but is now a corrupt place where all that matters is numbers that are generated for federal funding!!! Many Dfcs offices are hostile work environments for workers with morals!!!! I agree media needs to investigate
#98 duke on 01/13/12 at 07:00 AM
Let's be a little patient. She may be of better use from the inside to neutralize or eliminate the bigger problems.
#99 Oh we do get weary on 01/13/12 at 09:32 AM
ROFLMHO!!!!!!!!! "IF" ...

-she signed falsified time sheets?
-she allowed a worker to sleep on the job?
-knew about a worker that explicitly described her sexual relationship with her husband while standing in the front reception area?
-she knew this same worker used the most vile, loathsome, despicable language in front of clients on a daily bases?
-she knew this worker took intakes on the phone in the reception area, subsequently discussing the people of Pike County's private, confidential information in a manor in which it could be overheard?
-she knew of a supervisor that falsified time sheets?
-she allowed workers to come to work 15-30 minutes late on a regular bases, taking 1 and a 1/2 hour lunches, leaving 10-20 minutes early everyday YET posting a full 40 hours on their time sheet?
-if she is rude, condesending and shows favoritism
-if she never shows gratitude or appreciation for a job "well done!"

IF, IF, IF...maybe we should change it to SINCE SHE
-she should be terminated or at the very least examined by the state office.
#100 duke on 01/13/12 at 02:19 PM
Go ahead, run her off. you're credibility won't be restored until those who have really been calling the shots are gone. BTW, there must be a personnel grievance process in place ( by law must ). have you availed yourself to it ? Or were your omplaints found to be without merit ?
#101 Unbelievable on 01/13/12 at 06:06 PM
Duke it is apparent that you are a fan of Ms. Price and in the end you will see that she is not as angelic as you think. She has to live with what she has done everyday, talking out of both sides of her mouth, making people think that she is the victim in all this mess when what she has done is allowed other people to take the fall for the mess that she has created. Ms. Price and Ms. Griner her dear friend are made from the same mold. Take care of yourself, if someone gets in your way run over them as hard as you can,because in the end "I" am what is most important.
#102 Anonymous on 01/13/12 at 06:20 PM
Right because going to the state and filing a grievance would lead to something other than more cover up and one's termination. It is naive to think that the people who work in a corrupt office would have normal resources. They would be better of going to the media.

Duke if Ms.Price is not corrupt why was Ms. Griggers put on paid leave? And not untill the newspaper article? And just now fired? Despite a known inappropriate relationship?
#103 Where are you from on 01/13/12 at 06:59 PM
Before making comments you might want to have someone read over what you have to say because you give yourself away. Or maybe just go back to school, I think your "Boss" just might help with you that. If not he should tell you what an idiot you have made of yourself and just can't seem to stop.
#104 duke on 01/13/12 at 07:57 PM
State board policy requires that an employee be placed on paid admin leave until a disposition of an internal investigation and determination is completed.Look it up. I am not a fan of Price but the rules she has to go by are the rules and parameters in which she must work. The article came out when certain parties want to use it to bring attention to the mistreatment in a particular case, they had been biding their time to eleminate Griggers and neutralize the Tammy/Charlie/Susan house of pain. Now let's see what Price does with this opportunity. Will it be a new world order or submitting to suppossed dominance from the old order that has terrorized for years ?
BTW: I agree, most of the DFCS workers are good folks and Thank God for doing a job most folks don't want to even talk about.
#105 duke on 01/14/12 at 08:17 AM
Because State Peronnel Boeard rules; suspension with pay until disposition of criminal charges or internal investigations are complete. Common practice that it takes a seemingly long time. Even though it may have been ran like Pop's grocery there are still procedures that employees have a "right" to that differ from those of the private sector. As far as price's corruption I imagine she knows the truth on that matter and will be something decided by her superiors, for better or worse for all involved.
#106 Rugg Burnes on 01/14/12 at 10:03 AM
PLEASE WALTER! WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW ONLY SUBSCRIBERS TO POST HERE? START TODAY. IT'S TIME FOR ANONYMOUS POSTERS USING PHONY NAMES TO GO. AS IT APPEARS NOW, ONLY SHEILA TOLLEY AND MYSELF WILL BE ABLE TO CONVEY OUR COMMENTS TO THE READERS SINCE WE ARE THE ONLY WRITERS WHO USE "REAL" NAMES...Oh, I FORGET DONNA R, THE SHERIFF BASHER. SHE CAN STAY WITH A FREE SUBSCRIPTION.

ADIOS PHONIES: duke,mayhem,anonymous,johnny jones,Just saying,One who knows,concerned citizen,An equally concerned citizen,disappointed,satisfied,A. Nony Mouse, anon,knowsthe feeling,great auntie,walkin' boss, pike patriot leader, and.....
I give up! THERE ARE TOO MANY!

Hurry Walter...hurry!
#107 Anonymous on 01/14/12 at 11:40 AM
Well by your own adminsission she violated the rules. The incident occured in October and Ms. Griggers was not placed on paid suspension till December when it came to the boards attention.
#108 Anon on 01/14/12 at 12:02 PM
Everybody know this is true that certain parties were biding their time to eliminate Griggers but what she did to protect a child's life should be recognized. This case widely known through out the community because the family verbalizes it to anyone that will listen. In fact Bravo Raven is the one that started this campaign. I am not saying that Ms. Griggers being arrested was not an issue but no one knows how she supervised any cases or the people under her. What everybody is putting out there is pure speculation, but the bottom line is in this case she saved a child's life one of many I am sure and for that because I know the case and the family involved and no Ms. Griggers I thank her.
#109 Sheila Tolley on 01/14/12 at 05:34 PM
I dated Rugg Burnes in my younger years. Still have the scars....How are you now days, Shag?
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