Coach calls it quits

John McMillan

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High school football coach John McMillan resigned Friday even though he had already signed a contract for the 2011-12 school year. Superintendent Dr. Michael Duncan said coach Clint Burton has been appointed as interim head coach for the football team for their upcoming spring
practices.

“The bottom line is I’ve made a comment or two that someone – a teacher or a student – may have viewed as inappropriate,” he said. “Even though I signed a contract with the school, while this is going on I decided the way things are in Pike County, I’ll pursue other opportunities.”

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#1 Bystander on 03/24/11 at 09:20 AM

No matter what happened he is gone and there is no looking back. There is no reason to hammer the man with comments. Some liked him some disliked him.
Now it is time to move on Maybe Coach Burton is the coach for the future but for now he is the coach of this team heading into Spring Practice.
The one thing I noticed is it is crucial to get more players to be involved with the football team. It is my understanding for whatever reasons there are many good athletes walking the hallways that could make the Pirates a better team.
So Coach Burton Beat the Hallways recruit like a college coach does, It might stink but make it fun but make it work.
Pike County wants a winning football team to support so badly. Those first five games last season brought a passion and pride back to Pike County.
Build a feeder system starting with the recreation program then middle school program all the way up.

Good Luck and GO PIRATES!

#2 PIRATE FOOTBALL PLAYER on 03/24/11 at 05:56 PM

WE AS A TEAM WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE NEW NIKE JERSEYS AND EQUIPMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!! I MEAN SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IS FROM THE 70's!!! SO PLEASE DONATE TO THE TOUCHDOWN CLUB PIKE COUNTY!

#3 Real Pirate ...Arrrrr on 03/24/11 at 06:02 PM

I agree there is no reason to hammer this man. This action is normal with coaches, be it NFL, college, or high school. Heck, the Georgia fans want a new coach every time they lose two or more in a row. Pike has to realize their football program will "never" be anything but third rate at best. Maybe they ought to focus on a soccer program? Seems there is more interest in soccer than footy-ball…….

Good Day !!!!!!!

#4 Anonymous on 03/24/11 at 07:02 PM

What were the comments??

#5 Anonymous on 03/25/11 at 04:47 AM

LOLOLOLOL. Oops did I say that out loud?

#6 To Real Pirate on 03/25/11 at 05:32 AM

His dismissal had nothing to do with football.

#7 About the comments on 03/25/11 at 05:50 AM

About the comments

We all know overall in todays society we have to be super careful what we say these days as today many people if they do not like you then they assume things.
From what I have gathered is the coach has always made the same style of comments that might have been accepted or tolerated a few years back but over time and five straight losses these comments are not viewed the same. There are always no matter what going to be people not happy.
But you know some of his comments might have been inappropriate whether it was to football players or students or adults and in todays society you better think about the consequences about ANYTHING you say right or wrong.
But if you think about it. They had to be a few comments or suggestions we might not never know about but the School system started to think after obviously some or someone complained that if the school board does not get rid of him the school system might be facing potentially a lawsuit now or in the future.
I think it is what it is and I feel sorry for any person who loses their job these days. Think about this man was making it appears over 80,000 dollars doing something he loved to do and now he has lost it all. This will hang on his resume and everytime he applies for a new job with todays information technology people will find out about this and twist however they see fit.

So now the Pirates move on and for now it is Coach Burton and he and the rest of the staff will learn from this.

If anything I hope somehow someway the community can get behind him and support the Pirates and I hope somehow more students can become involved with the program.

If the Pirates are winning those fall friday nights at football games is wonderful.

Take Care everyone and Go Pirates

#8 Anonymous on 03/25/11 at 10:55 AM

WHAT WERE THE COMMENTS>>?????

#8.1 Anonymous on 03/26/11 at 09:58 AM

None of your business.

#8.1.1 Anonymous on 03/26/11 at 08:29 PM

Well I will assume they were sexual comments to underage students then.

#9 To "About the Comments" on 03/26/11 at 12:22 AM

For you to blame this on his five losses is ridiculous! These were not "Boy you look good in that dress" comments. The paper would not print what he said even if someone told, and believe me, the community would be shocked. I have NO pity for him because he deserved to lose his job. I am so proud of our administration for looking out for the welfare of our children and getting him out of our schools. Let's hope that they hire someone with character and integrity, as I'm sure they will.

#9.1 Anonymous on 03/26/11 at 08:29 PM

You are trying to act as if you have some kind of "insider knowledge" and that he said some "shocking" and deplorable comments, and I can assure you that you have no idea. Uninformed people need to restrain themselves from making commentary about what was said. There is much more to this than just a few "unacceptable" remarks.

#9.1.1 me on 03/30/11 at 10:39 PM

The fact that he left without one semblance of a fight speaks volumes. Nuff said.

#9.2 Meansville Militia on 03/27/11 at 02:13 AM

80k per yr ???? I dont think we can afford anymore integrity. If the lady (or gentlemen) had just slapped that smirk off his face I doubt he'd be so quick to do it again. Just proves the point folks money cant buy class (or if it could he musta spent it on something else)

#9.3 fat bass tard on 03/27/11 at 08:42 AM

since you know, why won't you print them?

#10 Pike Man on 03/26/11 at 08:08 PM

Note to Coach - Your comments were either inappropriate or they were not. It is not based on someone's view. The fact that you had already signed a contract and didn't fight to clear your name and stay suggests the comments were "very" inappropriate at best if not outright sexual harassment.

If you've said nothing inappropriate then there is no reason for you to leave. You owe it to your family to fight and clear your name. If you did say something inappropriate to PCH girls then the sooner you're out the better.

#11 Pirate Pride on 03/27/11 at 02:39 PM

It appears to me that this was forced as a result of someone with no backbone to solve their own problem or someone who thinks their precious child can do no harm. I really don’t care what was said and who it was said to, because I can’t imagine anything (sexual or not) being enough to warrant a resignation unless this was just the icing of a recently baked cake- which is hard to believe since he was committed to next year with the Boards blessing. I am sooooo tired of people having to tip-toe around what they say. If this had to do with losing, okay the Board should say so. If is was something sexual, I really don’t think it would “shocking” after hearing what high school students talk about and what they say to each other!If people in this town want a Division-winning, State-bound, Pirate Pride Football team they need to get behind the new coach and put their support and money into the program. And to the “Real Pirate” comment from earlier-you have obviously never had a Worst to First season, NEVER been to State, and you lack the support that the REAL FOOTBALL TEAM needs.

#12 Little Sister on 03/27/11 at 03:19 PM

Real Pirates, Real football teams, SUV's with out of county plates, road jam on hwy 19 and the Pirate BS has to stop. Education first. The Pike Couny BOE should take lessons from Flint River Academy, FRA rules. Big Brother and I are on top of this mess. There will not be a SPLOST for a over paid BOE administration.

#13 Pike Teacher on 03/27/11 at 06:34 PM

I have one of those out of county plates. I drive into this county each and every day to teach your children, and all I am met with on this pseudo-paper and by the school board is disdain because I'm "not from here." I teach in this county because I think small towns are generally great places to work. It's certainly not for the lofty supplement. However, I must say that the fear and outright dislike of "outsiders" has made me question continuing in this county, which is a shame because the kids are pretty great, and I'm a good teacher.

#13.1 WILLIAMSON MOTHER on 03/27/11 at 09:30 PM

I agree with you. I feel like an outsider since my child got to high school. These folks are not trying to help children they are hurting them.

#13.2 Anonymous on 03/28/11 at 06:28 AM

Please let the door hit you in the ____ on your way out!

#13.3 fat bass tard on 03/28/11 at 07:55 AM

we don't have a problem with out of town plates. though i would say it should be a requirement that teachers live in the area where they teach.

what we have a problem with is out of towners coming to "fix" pike county. you know bring us out of the dark ages. we like it here and we don't particularly want it to change and as long as you are ok with that you are welcome here. once you start with all the things that pike county "needs" we would rather you return to the place that has them.

#13.3.1 pike county resident on 03/28/11 at 09:41 AM

are you kidding?? you think it should be a requirement to live here to be able to teach here? thats pathetic!! if he/she is a qualified teacher they should have the right to teach where they please. in 99.9% of jobs that people have, they are not in the county you live in!!

to the teacher out of this county...welcome to pike and thanks so much for the job that you do each and everyday to teach our kids and for driving the distance to do so, cause i know for a fact that pike is a low paying county for school employees!!

#13.3.1.1 fat bass tard on 03/28/11 at 12:09 PM

no you're pathetic.

teacher's should have a vested interested in the community they serve. pike county pays teachers plenty and administrators too much. if we didn't have to pay so much on the top end of things, maybe we could afford books for everyone.

#13.3.1.1.1 pike county resident on 03/28/11 at 07:22 PM

since you seem to have a problem with how things are ran in pike county, why dont you pack your bags and leave??

#13.3.1.1.1.1 fat bass tard on 03/29/11 at 08:33 AM

why don't you? i like how things are in pike county. i'm trying to keep them from going the way of clayton where you can't even get a qualified education.

i guess people like you want to change pike county. make it into clayton and henry and fayette.

i've lived here since i was born. but, if it keeps going the way it is, i will move and let all these wanna be city folk have it.

#13.3.1.1.1.2 fat bass tard on 03/29/11 at 08:35 AM

i guess you agree that students don't need books.

that having a class without a teacher is ok as long as we get to keep short people in administration.

you must be one of the superintendents buddies. are you short too?

#13.3.1.1.1.2.1 pike county resident on 03/29/11 at 09:10 AM

actually i dont know mr duncan personally and im sure not the one who should be passing judgement on him!! but by all means if your qualified, then apply for his job since you seem to know how it should be done!

and by the way, no im not short!! im tall and stand proud for what i believe in! and what i believe is that it doesnt matter if you were born and raised here or an implant here, whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong when it comes to the future of our children!

i love it here in pike county and do not want to see it turn into henry, fayette or clayton either, but we for sure dont need to be like mayberry either!!

#13.3.1.1.1.2.1.1 fat bass tard on 03/29/11 at 09:24 AM

i want to see what's best for the children as well, i just don't agree that paying 60+% toward administration and 35-38% for teaching is the right way to do it.

my son has 2 classes where they have to share books. my daughter has a class that the teacher is in athens and is a graduate student (the actual teacher also in athens is on maternity leave). this graduate student is teaching science and can't spell. CAN'T SPELL!!!

if you think that school system is being run wisely, you are sadly mistaken. to continue to pay a premium (50% more than griffin-spalding) for this superintendent is ludicrous.

#13.3.1.2 Been trying to get a simple job in Pike Schools for 4 years on 03/29/11 at 08:01 PM

I'm sorry I do think you should have to live in Pike County to work at the schools. People like me been trying to get a simple job in the school system for 4 years and can't because all the people working there that dont live in Pike and the own county residents cant even get a job there. I would be happy with anything to be on the same schedule as my kids.

#13.3.1.2.1 Anonymous on 03/30/11 at 12:24 PM

I don't agree that teachers should be required to live in the county where they teach. Why should a teacher have to move when they change jobs? Do all the deputies live in the county? No. Do all the postal workers live in the county? No.

Teachers have a life outside of school. Apparently, the public does not realize this. I teach in one county and live in a nearby county so I will not be bothered by parents/ students when I am away from my job. I once lived in the county where I taught and it was horrible. Parents would call at night and wake my kids up to ask about extra credit assignments or ask for answers to a study guide. When I'm not at school, I want you to leave me alone. At the end of the day, i am human.

#13.3.2 momteacherresident on 04/02/11 at 01:19 AM

What difference does it make where a teacher lives? I teach here, live here, have kids in school here but I used to live in spalding. How does my address now vs. my previous address have any influence over what happens in my classroom. I'm not being 'smart'...I am really curious as to the reasoning behind this idea. I would also like to say that all of these comments about teacher salaries are just out of line. The cost of my education, which is required to teach your children, is not commensurate with my salary. I also work a 2nd job to make up for the money I have lost to furloughs and the increased insurance premiums I pay. I just don't get the salary issue when the employees of Pike Co. BOE have shouldered the cuts handed down by the state...no resident of this county has had to pay one extra cent to support the school system. I guess I'm just wondering why the salary post...it's no secret...anyone can look up salaries online. And without question, for what my peers and I are responsible for, we do NOT make too much money.

#13.3.2.1 fat bass tard on 04/02/11 at 10:47 AM

teacher's who live in the area and have or will have children in the system have a vested interest in making the school the absolute best it can be. otherwise, they just do the job because they want to do a good job. and since there are fewer and fewer people in the world with high work ethics, i would prefer to have someone with a vested interest.

#13.4 Anonymous on 03/28/11 at 05:05 PM

Thank You for teaching my children, having worked in the system I know how hard it sometimes. No matter what people say on here, Please keep it up . And again thanks for teaching our children.

#14 Georgia Girl on 03/27/11 at 08:11 PM

Never feel alone. Our former county manager was from New Hampshire, code enforcement officer from Wisconsin, director of planning and zoning from Lovejoy. One of our commissioners even moved to Alabama and remained on the BOC. Look after yourself, there is Jonesboro, Jackson and some real small towns around Ware County.

#14.1 Elvis on 03/28/11 at 11:00 AM

Sheila, sounds like we need some lyrics.
How'about, Treat me like a fool. My favorite.
Treat me mean and cruel but love me.

Thank you very much

#14.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 03/28/11 at 12:26 PM

The Lyric Lady is here to help. It doesn't relate to this coach but it needs to be said for the Coach in The White House:

He was a little man, just turned three
Took the present from his daddy’s hand
A genuine toy hammer
He started beatin’ to beat the band
He hit the floors and the wall, broke a lamp in the hall,
Started swinging at the puppy’s tail
When you’re holding a hammer
Everything looks like a nail.

He was the president, number 44
He says, “Trust me, I’m here to help you
I have got some big big plans
You’re gonna love what I’m gonna do.”
There’s no problem too big or small
He thinks he’s got an answer that just can’t fail
When you’re holding a hammer
Everything looks like a nail.

He thinks big thoughts and he dreams big dreams
But it’s another man’s sweat that pays for those schemes
He don’t care how the little people feel
‘Cause saving the world is a big freaking deal
So he does his business behind closed doors
And pretends that the world is just begging for more
When the stuff hits the fan he says, “Don’t look at me
If you got trouble, blame 43.”

Now Congress is saving Wall Street
While they’re watching Main Street fall
They got health care all figured out
But it don’t seem to care much at all
As soon as they save the planet
They’ll put the fire out in hell
When you’re holding a hammer.
Everything looks like a nail.

There’ll be a party come this November
When we’re gonna set things straight
All good people gonna gather ‘round
Gonna show what made this country great
We’ll run off the schemers and backroom dealers
So the Red, White and Blue will prevail
When we’re holding the hammer
When we’re holding the hammer
Everyone of them looks like a nail.

#14.1.1.1 Limb on the roof on 03/28/11 at 02:01 PM

Thanks Sheila. Your precious. Always up to speed on all the happenings.

#14.1.1.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 03/29/11 at 01:43 PM

Thank you, thank you...just keep your seat.

#14.2 Anonymous on 03/28/11 at 12:38 PM

Your current county manger not only is not from Pike, but he doesn't even currently reside in this county. Just an FYI.

#14.2.1 fat bass tard on 03/28/11 at 01:17 PM

i've had the pleasure of dealing with mr. sawyer on a number of occasions. i think once he is confident he will be staying for more than a year, he will move here.

but just in case you didn't know. mr. sawyer is not a teacher.

#14.3 Meansville Militia on 03/29/11 at 12:44 AM

Dog gone, everybody is from somewhere else. Our diversity should be applauded ! I just wonder why they picked Pike County ? Could it be no one else would hire them ? Just how deep did these background checks go ? I'm not implying all out of county educators are somehow suspect. It just seems to me back when the teachers were 'underpaid' it stood to reason they had to be truly committed to their profession, a labor of love as it were. I've lived here all my life (so far) my 2nd grade teacher also taught my mama. Now it seems the reason to become a teacher is the high paying salary. I heard (havent confirmed it) our superintendent makes more than the governor ? I wonder just how many of our educators belong to the NEA ? I've read and believe a high school diploma earned in 1946 is the equal to todays college degree. Add public education to just another facet of 'GOVERNMENTS' decline

#15 Ex Pike Employee on 03/28/11 at 07:12 PM

Unfortunately this sort of thing happens to Pike County School employees way too often.
When they want you gone they will tell anything and everything to make it very uncomfortable for you. I know this to be a fact because I also fell victim to lies while working for Pike County school system.
They have accused innocent people of slapping a student, but I remind you no police was called,so I ask you all reading this,if a teacher or staff member ever hit a child,don't you all think the police should have been called and an investigation done?
I was told how unprofessional I was all the time when in fact I know someone stole from the school and the principal at the time begged not to have them arrested, but if it had been your child or mine they would have been hauled off to jail. This person yelled at students and was never reprimended for it, these were special education students. It was reported but never any discipline to them.
I was there doing all I could to help children achieve their goals, as so was Coach Mac, but unfortunately we got the boot and those who need to be gone are still there. Good luck Mac and hope things work out for you!!!!!!!!!

#15.1 Anonymous on 03/29/11 at 04:46 PM

Thanks for letting us know how bad the schools are here in Pike. Lots of people just don't believe it. I had my children there and started homeschooling when they were being very hostile toward me when I was trying to get them to help with special ed.

#16 Patty on 03/29/11 at 11:26 AM

Lot's of posters.
I'm wondering if fat bass tard is one of JC's screen names???? Sure sounds like him.

#16.1 fat bass tard on 03/29/11 at 01:06 PM

fraid not.

#16.1.1 sweet tater on 03/29/11 at 02:50 PM

Never say fraid not. Consider it a blessing. Now we can respect your postings. Carry on my friend.

#16.1.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 04/02/11 at 09:50 AM

Once upon a time in the Land of Yarn there was a little bar. Assorted items gathered there at the end of the day to have a drink and relax. As with all bars, they had rules. they would not serve strings. They served buttons, zippers, snaps, just no strings. Mr. String considered it discrimination and told the bartender so. The bartender kicked him out into the street. The string unwound a little, twisted himself into a knot and re-entered the bar. The bartender asked, "Aren't you the string I just tossed out into the street?"

The String replied, "I'm a frayed knot."

#17 Patriot on 03/30/11 at 10:04 AM

Moved in several years ago for the school system. No problems, great experience, glad we moved. Take a look around within a 20 mile radius at the public schools. Home school your kids and good luck on them adapting in the real world. I'd have to say Pike's move ins outweigh the homegrown. How many residents here are 2nd and third generations or more? I'm an American, not a Pike countian, so I never get caught up in that kind of stuff. I'm disapointed in the coach, but if you've been around high school sports you know not to let these people influence your kids too much. This is the world we live in, raise your own kids, get in Church and teach them the Golden Rule and don't hide them from the world, hopefully they can change it for the better.

#17.1 fat bass tard on 03/30/11 at 10:47 AM

i think you will find that there are more lifelong residents in pike than you think. as far as the rest, i agree.

btw, i am 4th generation pike county.

#17.2 Concord Resident on 03/30/11 at 02:55 PM

My family has people in the local graveyards that date back to the 1700's. One or two fought in the revolutionary war. Does that count?

#18 Karen on 03/30/11 at 11:09 AM

Maybe I should have an interview with channel 2 news and get it in the open about all the things that have been swept under the rug. Just a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody want to join me,let me know and we will set it up.

#19 sweet tater on 03/30/11 at 01:17 PM

Why go with channel 2 news? The I Team of 11 Live is fast and trusted. Big Brother and I have called them on several flukes. They are upbeat, accurate and have a larger audience.

#19.1 Anonymous on 03/30/11 at 05:30 PM

Thanks I might just do that once I get all my ducks in a row. I just want everybody to know the stuff I know.

#20 high pay? Whatever~~ on 03/31/11 at 04:56 PM

This goes to Meansville Militia?? Your sentence, "Now it seems the reason to become a teacher is the high paying salary." had me almost wetting my pants! It might be true that our lovely superintendent makes a good chunk of change, but that does NOT trickle down to the teachers. Many teachers, whether it be single or double income household, often rely on outside jobs just to make ends meet. It isn't because teachers live high on the hog, it is because the funding for teachers is not a priority. The hours spent before and after school, weekends, and summers is unbelievable and the compensation is not there. If you are going to trash the system for what people make, make sure you are trashing the right people.

#20.1 Meansville Militia on 04/01/11 at 07:14 AM

Bullseye ! I knew I'd get a hit from that post. You must be a teacher. Probably have always been a teacher. Assuming that is the case what do you make ? What is the starting salary for educators ? minimum wage ? How many days per year are you required to work ? Let me be clear, I am not putting down teachers. I had some fantastic teachers who truly impacted my life by the sincere love and concern shown to me. Others taught me the art of critical thinking that has served me well throughout my life. Still others violently battered my buttocks bringing home the lesson that actions have consequences.There has not been a single year in recent memory that educators have not received a cost of living raise, not to mention the obscene practice of teachers retiring with huge pensions only to be rehired as contractors.The education system is top heavy with high paid administrators who in reality are as valuable as teats on a bull.I doubt you are on welfare or drive a second hand junker. Your job security rivals the Pope and your benefits are unequaled. So go ahead and cry me a river.Things are tough all over.

#20.1.1 from a teacher on 04/02/11 at 01:59 AM

I would just like to know where you are getting your information. Not one teacher in this state has had a raise in the last 3 years. We have also had our benefits packages drastically cut. My insurance premium is double and if you had any idea about your numbers, you would know that I will NOT have a huge pension...which by the way, I pay into monthly. Not one resident of this county has had to shoulder the cost of the cuts that have been handed down by our state...BOE employees have done that. You have no idea what it takes to do my job and the number of hours my peers and I spend, outside of the classroom, preparing to teach. I have also taken a 2nd job to make up for pay cuts. You do not know what you are talking about. I do not consider myself poor by any stretch of the imagination but we have not had a raise and our pay is in no way commensurate with what it costs to educate ourselves so that we are QUALIFIED to teach your children.

#20.1.1.1 Anonymous on 04/02/11 at 01:53 PM

It is the state employees who are not paid well, have furloughs and lesser retirement benefits comparatively to teachers. I think teachers/adm. are doing pretty well:

Principals and random teachers pay in PIke:

BELL,TAMMY G PRINCIPAL $ 84,412.10 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
FLUKER,BONITA PRINCIPAL $ 81,134.09 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
JOHN,SCOTT C PRINCIPAL $ 88,122.21 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
MADDOX,MICHAEL L PRINCIPAL $ 91,352.82 $ 317.90 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
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BARNETT,KAY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 64,344.84 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
CHILDS,WHITNEY W GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 53,556.96 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
ENGLISH,STACEY GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 33,528.74 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
GREEN,LINDSEY N GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 44,244.44 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
HEAPE,ANGELA P GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 31,904.95 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
JENKINS,RACHEL S GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 44,244.44 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
MARTIN,ROBERTA L GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 52,127.68 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
SULLIVAN,APRIL T GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 51,643.78 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
THOMPSON,TAMMY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 56,783.58 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION
WILLIS,CATHY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $ 57,058.58 $ 0.00 PIKE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION

#20.2 pike county resident on 04/01/11 at 08:54 AM

you can see what any and everybody has made in 2008, 2009, 2010. just go to....
www.open.georgia.gov

click on the green box and explore away!! any school system employee's yearly income is public knowledge!!

rather interesting!!

#20.2.1 Just the first 3 pages on 04/01/11 at 01:09 PM

Highest paid to lowest paid...pages 1-3 from Open.georgia.gov

DUNCAN,S M SUPERINTENDENT $143,848.28
MADDOX,MICHAEL L PRINCIPAL $91,352.82
JOHN,SCOTT C PRINCIPAL $88,122.21
BELL,TAMMY G PRINCIPAL $84,412.10
FLUKER,BONITA PRINCIPAL $81,134.09
MCMILLAN,JOHN M ATHLETICS DIRECTOR $80,273.75
SMITH,VICKIE W ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $78,170.88
CARTER,W K FINANCE/BUSINESS SER $77,983.66
GREEN,GREGORY T DIRECTOR OF STUDENT $76,454.57
HUFFSTETLER,KEVIN D SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT S $75,105.19
MARION,TAMARA B ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $71,798.79
KERSEY,RICHARD A PLANT OPERATIONS DIR $70,932.16
CAPE,JAMES D GRADES 6-8 TEACHER $70,529.00
MORELAND,CAROLYN MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSE $69,201.86
MCNUTT,MICHAEL D GRADE 7 TEACHER $68,853.46
SESSIONS,JAMES T IN-SCHOOL SUSP TEACH $67,832.62
ALLISON,JENNIFER R TEACHER SUPPORT SPEC $67,689.73
WEBBER,BRADLEY C GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $67,454.44
CARDEN,JANICE S SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST $67,384.71
WELCH,JOHN W ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL D $67,210.74
ANDREWS,LAWRENCE M IN-SCHOOL SUSP TEACH $67,066.14
TOWNSEND,LAURIE A ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $65,396.93
DEAN,KAY A GRADE 4 TEACHER $65,152.68
MATHIS,BRENDA F GRADE 7 TEACHER $64,920.72
MCMILLAN,PAMELA A SPECIAL EDUCATION DI $64,788.45
SMITH,KENNETH O GRADES K-5 TEACHER $64,502.02
ROSS,BRENDA M KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $64,344.84
BARNETT,KAY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $64,344.84
DAWSON,TERRI J GRADE 8 TEACHER $64,327.68
ADCOX,DONNA T SPECIAL EDUCATION IN $64,128.88
BARTON,JOY K KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $64,027.68
THARPE,JEFFREY M TRANSPORTATION DIREC $63,856.62
BLOUNT,REGINA T LITERACY COACH $63,241.84
BUTLER,DEBORAH Y KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $62,776.98
HUBBARD,KIMBERLY B GRADE 2 TEACHER $62,626.98
WOMBLE,SHERRY SPECIAL EDUCATION IN $62,291.68
FOUST,DANIEL J SPECIAL EDUCATION IN $62,189.80
BECK,MARLA M SPECIAL EDUCATION IN $61,905.68
JONES,CHRISTOPHER W GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $61,244.50
SESSIONS,TRACY A LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPEC $61,167.95
BURTON,CLINTON A GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $60,719.01
SMITH,DAWN SPECIAL EDUCATION IN $60,684.84
WATTS,SHERYL T ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $60,575.03
JONES,JENNIFER HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELO $60,546.40
WOERNER,CLAY A GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $60,150.26
MERRICK,KAREN L LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPEC $60,069.92
OLIVER,KATRINA C MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSE $59,616.70
CLAIR,KRISTI GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $59,110.83
THOMAS,JOAN GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $59,064.28
RAGSDALE,BRENDA F GRADE 4 TEACHER $59,051.54
SILVER,SHIRLEY M GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $58,926.54
DROEGMILLER,MARILYN K GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $58,314.28
DELUZIO,TAMMY D GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $58,205.52
HARBERS,PENNY GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $58,116.92
MOODY,ELAINE J EARLY INTERVENTION T $58,064.24
ENGLAND,LARA L KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $57,639.59
WAITS,GREGORY VOCATIONAL $57,612.79
O STEEN,JUSTIN P VOCATIONAL $57,486.50
MADDREY,ALLISON GRADE 5 TEACHER $57,340.34
BOZEMAN,LESA B GRADE 2 TEACHER $57,339.24
GRANGER,TRACEY W EARLY INTERVENTION T $57,339.24
BUSBY,JERRI W GRADE 6 TEACHER $57,314.24
BOOKER,EVE GRADE 4 TEACHER $57,215.34
MCCONNELL,HERRICK GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $57,214.24
NARAMORE,TONI W GRADE 2 TEACHER $57,189.24
BRAZIER,JANET B GRADE 5 TEACHER $57,189.24
HEARN,TONYA EIP 4TH AND 5TH GRAD $57,064.24
FAGAN,LINDA L GRADE 2 TEACHER $57,064.24
ROUSH,JOHN W INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIA $57,064.24
REEVES,MARIE F GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $57,064.24
WILLIS,CATHY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $57,058.58
CRAWFORD,JAMIE T GIFTED ELEMENTARY TE $57,051.74
ADAMS,RACHEL S GRADE 6 TEACHER $56,968.86
JONES,MARK C GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $56,929.32
ROBERTS,MIMI LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPEC $56,905.24
THOMPSON,TAMMY M GRADE 1 TEACHER $56,783.58
BURFORD,BETSY G ELEMENTARY COUNSELOR $56,769.52
DAWSON,CARRIE R ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $56,115.63
MCGURL,LISA R MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPLOR $55,972.18
MCCRARY,MICHAEL L MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPLOR $55,473.64

#20.2.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 04/01/11 at 07:51 PM

Get rid of theses UN-TEACHERS and give the Teachers a big fat raise.

We have more Assistants than the DOT has employees to lean on shovels.

#20.2.1.2 Sheila Tolley on 04/01/11 at 07:54 PM

This will be FUN to analyze a little later when I am bored.

#20.2.1.3 Anonymous on 04/02/11 at 02:05 PM

this is sad, I have worked for the state of GA with 6 years of college, ten plus years exp, moved up to management, work all through the year with only 12 holidays, and still don't make close to the bottom salary on this list. You cannot convince me that teachers are not paid very well.

#20.2.1.3.1 Anonymous on 04/02/11 at 09:45 PM

Many people feel the way you do.

#20.2.2 fat bass tard on 04/01/11 at 03:17 PM

interesting figures:

~390,000 in substitute teachers.

#21 Anonymous on 04/01/11 at 01:02 PM

Neighboring counties provide the children agendas for free. Ice cream is double the price at Pike, as is anything else a student must purchase, including field day shirts, etc.

#22 Anonymous on 04/01/11 at 01:14 PM

Governor Sonny Perdue's salary was: $135,281

DUNCAN - SALARY - SUPERINTENDENT - $143,848.28

#22.1 Anono on 04/03/11 at 07:47 AM

Duncan is doing a better job than Purdue ever did.

#22.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 04/03/11 at 10:22 AM

I am not the one who posted that info but I am in the process of doing an in-depth analysis of ALL the data. I will be back with you when finished.

#23 Anonymous on 04/01/11 at 01:21 PM

My wife teaches in Pike County and it is a great school system. I just want those that consider her pay so high that many times she and I have to buy supplies for her students because the parent’s don’t have the money or do not want to be bothered. We do this because we care for those students and want the best for them. I can guarantee you that many teachers are doing this also. By the way we don’t live hear but we care about the education of your children.

#23.1 Anonymous on 04/02/11 at 02:00 PM

sorry it is hard to feel bad about your having to buy supplies when I know people that buy furniture for their "customers" and use personal car for serving them. Also, law enf., fireman, and social workers are risking their lives to serve children and are paid far less than those teachers on the list above.. sorry-

#23.2 Anonymous on 04/02/11 at 02:02 PM

Thank you for what you do for children but could it be that some parents are tired of buying kleenex and soap (agendas, tshirts, etc) for the school when we just near a grand to the school on our property taxes? This might be something to consider.

#24 Sheila Tolley on 04/01/11 at 07:42 PM

"By the way we don’t live hear"

I hope you do not teach HERE either.

#25 missing info on 04/03/11 at 08:33 AM

It's interesting that whomever posted teacher salaries failed to post the ones that range from 23,000 to 54,000. I would guess that the people who complain about teacher salaries are people who are uneducated and do not have tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to pay back for 4-year and graduate degrees. MANY of our teachers have Masters degrees and specialist degrees. The bottom line is - IF YOU WANT TO MAKE WHAT TEACHERS MAKE, BECOME A TEACHER!! Otherwise get a life and find something else to occupy your mind.

#25.1 Elcie on 04/03/11 at 10:42 AM

I'd add to that, "Don't complain, either." You knew what the pay was before you got into it. If you don't like it, do something else.

#25.1.1 Anonymous on 04/04/11 at 06:55 AM

Hey Elcie.........Miss You.

#25.1.2 Anonymous on 04/04/11 at 08:21 PM

I don't want to teach, I want to do my job that I feel called to do and get comparable pay for my comparable education and hard work. Most people do not know about the salary discrepancy as evidenced by the reaction to these posts. I didn't when I started out but I still wouldn't do a job I didn't feel strongly about just for the pay.

#25.2 Anonymous on 04/05/11 at 09:31 PM

the way the salaries are set up displays a somewhat close starting pay for other professionals in state government compared to teaching; however, later, teachers receive higher and more frequent raises while the other state employee's salaries remains at the same pay for years at a time with no raise or with a mere 2% or so... due to this, they really didn't "know what they were getting into"

#25.3 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 06:08 PM

IRS.gov:

If your education meets the requirements described earlier
under Qualifying Work-Related Education you can gener- ally deduct your education expenses as business ex-

Deductible expenses. The following education expenses can be deducted.
Transportation expenses include the actual costs of · Tuition, books, supplies, lab fees, and similar items. bus, subway, cab, or other fares, as well as the costs of
· Certain transportation and travel costs. using your car. Transportation expenses do not include
amounts spent for travel, meals, or lodging while you are · Other education expenses, such as costs of re- away from home overnight.
search and typing when writing a paper as part of aneducational program.

Student Loan
Repayment Assistance The loan must have been made by a qualified lender to
borrower in attending an eligible educational
Qualified lenders. These include the following. service occupations or in areas with unmet needs. Examples
of such occupations are health care professionals in
1. The government—federal, state, or local, or an in- underserved areas, attorneys in legal-aid offices and prosstrumentality,
agency, or subdivision thereof. ecutor’s or public defender’s offices, and classroom teachers in subject areas with shortages.

#25.4 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 06:09 PM

IRS.gov:

If your education meets the requirements described earlier
under Qualifying Work-Related Education you can generally deduct your education expenses as business expenses

Deductible expenses. The following education expenses can be deducted.
Transportation expenses include the actual costs of · Tuition, books, supplies, lab fees, and similar items. bus, subway, cab, or other fares, as well as the costs of
· Certain transportation and travel costs. using your car. Transportation expenses do not include
amounts spent for travel, meals, or lodging while you are · Other education expenses, such as costs of re- away from home overnight.
search and typing when writing a paper as part of aneducational program.

Student Loan
Repayment Assistance The loan must have been made by a qualified lender to
borrower in attending an eligible educational
Qualified lenders. These include the following. service occupations or in areas with unmet needs. Examples
of such occupations are health care professionals in
1. The government—federal, state, or local, or an in- underserved areas, attorneys in legal-aid offices and prosstrumentality,
agency, or subdivision thereof. ecutor’s or public defender’s offices, and classroom teachers in subject areas with shortages.

#26 Lamar salaries on 04/03/11 at 08:54 AM

Compare these central office salaries to Pike's and maybe you will feel better!

Name Title Salary Travel Organization
TRUBY,WILLIAM F SUPERINTENDENT $ 155,408.13
MERMANN,TERRENCE DEPUTY/ASSOC/ASSISTA $ 96,675.32
STEELE,JULIE PRINCIPAL $ 94,869
AUSTIN,DERICK L PRINCIPAL $ 93,373.04
HARVEY,DIANE PRINCIPAL $ 89,481.56
GREENWOOD,NORMA J TITLE I DIRECTOR $ 87,762.44
SCANDRETT,ANDREA PRINCIPAL $ 86,041.88
SHIPP,JOHN T ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $ 81,530.73
FINLEY,SHIRLEY M LITERACY COACH $ 76,734.38 GARY,TWYLA L LITERACY COACH $ 75,649.34
STRICKLAND,JASON B GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $74,656.52
STANDARD,LAURA G ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $ 74,334.74
KNIGHT,WAYLON T ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $ 72,913.77
SCANDRETT,CALVIN CROSSROADS ALT $ 72,405.44
SCHOOL TEACHER
LACHANCE,JOY A TEACHER OF SPECIFIC $ 72,178.22
LEARNING DISABILITIES
WALKER,TREESOMIA ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL $ 71,676.56
STINSON,PAUL W MILITARY SCIENCE $ 70,757.00
BANDELE,DIANN MIDDLE SCHOOL $ 70,416.70
COUNSELOR
MURRAH,BRANDEE GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $ 69,454.40
HAWKINS,JEREMY T ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $ 69,306.18
SCHAFFER,ROXANNE KINDERGARTEN $ 69,191.68
TEACHER
JORDAN,SHIRLEY KINDERGARTEN $ 69,144.72
TEACHER
BELL,GARY GRADE 7 TEACHER $ 69,140.42
ADAMS,PAIGE P ELEMENTARY $ 69,067.94
COUNSELOR
WILSON,LINDA W KINDERGARTEN $ 67,300.71
TEACHER
SIZEMORE,CHARLES R GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $ 66,979.22

#27 Sheila Tolley & Calculator on 04/03/11 at 06:23 PM

$328,531.83 Expense for Substitute teachers 2010.

Two individuals collecting over $30,000.00 as Substitute teachers.

More facts to ponder on the way.

#27.1 fat bass tard on 04/04/11 at 10:03 AM

what irritates me about nearly 400 thousand dollars for substitutes is that we are actually paying for two teachers. the one who isn't working and should be and the one that has to take their place.

maybe if teachers had to pay subs out of their own pockets they would stay at work all 190 days they have to work a year.

#28 Sheila Tolley & Calculator on 04/03/11 at 06:38 PM

$471,405.45 Cost of Custodial Personnel 2010.

More to come.

#28.1 Sheila Tolley & Calculator on 04/04/11 at 09:20 AM

$457,113.92 Bus Drivers 2010.

More to come.

#28.1.1 Get ready ! on 04/04/11 at 06:21 PM

Thanks for the update. Been out of town on the beach. Good work. If you have children then you as a parent should be responsible for getting them to school. Big news, a storm is rolling in tonight, take cover. You are a sweetie.

#28.1.2 fat bass tard on 04/05/11 at 01:13 PM

this is running two buses per route. so that if you miss the bus mommy doesn't have to drive you to school.

cut that in half by simply going back to get your lazy butt out of bed and get to the bus.

#29 Football is BIG BUSINESS on 04/03/11 at 08:38 PM

I am a class of 1983 graduate of Pike County High School. The football coach at the time was Bobby Floyd and I do not remember winning more than 3 games in a season. There was some great talent on that team and some great talent in the school that refused to play for the coach. When I left school to go The UGA I learned something about football in the South. Football is a business. Winning is better for the business of football. A winning coach is even better. Winning coaches cost money. Before one complains about what a winning coaches salary one should look at the Economics of football even high school football.

I do not live in Pike anymore but I was lucking enough to attend the Pike vs. Lamar game this year, always a great rivalry. I would estimate their was at least 4000 fans on the Pike County side that night and probably another 5000 in the Lamar County stands. I would assume that Pike County average around the same 5000 fans in their home games and let us assume that 2000 visitors comes with the visiting team. That is an average of 7000 fans for 5 home games. So let us do some math.

I do not remember how much I paid that night but let’s assume I paid $7.00 as an adult and the students paid $5.00. I will assume that between the 7000 fans it was evenly divided between adults and students so this would make the average ticked price $6.00. I will, just for the sake of it assume that the fans spent an average of $2.00 at the concession stand. I must admit that I do not know if the schools have to share the gate but if they did things would even out with the away games. With this scenario set up let’s do some math.

7000 fans x $6.00 for the gate = $42,000
7000 fans x $2.00 for concession = $14,000
$56,000

$56000 x 5 = $280,000

Coaches Salary = $80,00
Left over monies = $200,000

3000 fans x $6.00 for the gate = $18,000
3000 fans x $2.00 for concession = $6,000
$24,000

$24,000 x 5 = $120,000

Coaches Salary = $80,000
Left over monies = $40,000

Getting a good football coach cost money. A good football coach will pay for themselves. You may not remember 1983 but it did not feel good being every school Homecoming Team. Football in the South is BIG Business.

#29.1 fat bass tard on 04/04/11 at 10:05 AM

you aren't counting the 15+/- assistant coaches that also have to be paid, or the upkeep of the grounds, electricity, et. al. football in a small county like pike is a losing proposition.

the only profit is all the "pro football player" parents living vicariously through their children.

#29.1.1 DannyB Class of 88 on 04/06/11 at 06:23 PM

The grounds are shared; as well as most of the other overhead - so, his argument is valid. Whether or not you win (or have a winning coach) can determine how much subsidy is required to finance ALL the sports affiliated with PiCoHi. The more you pull in with tickets and whatever else follows, the less you all have to pay to keep it going. Higher performing people make higher salaries. The free market helps keep it like that; and I wouldn't want it any other way (speaking on behalf of all higher performing people).

#29.1.1.1 fat bass tard on 04/07/11 at 08:52 AM

the grounds are only shared when the football coach doesn't want to have practice, water the field or any number of other excuses they've used to keep others off of the football field.

the band has to practice on a dirt field because the coaches don't want them walking on the grass.

most of the other sports don't use the lights because they don't play at night.

they even took over the walking track so they could split their squads up to practice offense and defense.

sorry danny but you are dead wrong on this one.

#29.2 Meansville Militia on 04/08/11 at 07:35 PM

God Bless You my friend. I'm just 4 yrs your sr. and i remember Jim Huffman coaching the first jr varsity team we had. He also taught full time. If there ever arose a dispute amongst we boys he'd say "Get out the mat !" we could wrestle or put on the boxing gloves. I forget now whose choice it was, most likely the challenged party. Now if that were suggested there would be a hue and cry of violence and barbarism !!! I bet I can name at least one of the teams we could always beat (now they're a state powerhouse) East Coweta we looked forward to. Mary Persons was dreaded by us all. I still bear the injury one of those monsters inflicted on me. I know they were older than they said. Half of'em had full beards and I swear I saw a wedding ring on one's finger. Thanks for the memories

#29.3 elcie on 04/09/11 at 08:49 AM

You're partially right Mr. FIBB- football is big business. Truth is, WINNING at football is big business.

I've seen coaches court and cater to the players. And I've seen them kick 'em to the curb and move on to the next one when they're done. Meanwhile, the kid doesn't understand why his mentor no longer gives him the time of day. I think the word I'm looking for here is exploitation.

Funny how the same people who welcome a winning coach who has zero classes to teach and makes $150- $212K a year are the same people who whine about a teacher making $60K for teaching six classes and 140 students whose functionality runs the gamut from drooling to uber-genius.

Pike County seems to get the priorities right. It's not about building a solid football program, it's about building solid young men and women.

School is in BIG business already- the business of educating our children. Once they conquer that market, then they can diversify.

Let's just say we ain't there yet...

#29.3.1 Meansville Militia on 04/10/11 at 01:20 AM

The way things are going we'd be better served scrapping the football altogether and instituting a rifle/marksmanship program !

#29.3.1.1 Anonymous on 04/11/11 at 12:47 PM

We so need JROTC in Pike county. Wonder why that has not been in place yet. I know of alot of young men and ladies that want that.

#30 Big Business on 04/04/11 at 09:27 PM

I like my glass half full.

#30.1 Sheila Tolley & Calculator on 04/05/11 at 06:21 PM

I keep mine half empty to be conservative...but my glass is twice as big.

Ain't math grand.

#31 fat bass tard on 04/06/11 at 08:49 AM

the average person works 240 days a year. that's 5 days a week 48 weeks per year.

teachers work 190 days per year. the average teacher salary in the us is 42,000

so a teacher making 42,000 per year is like the average person making approximately 53,000 per year. that seems like a pretty dang good salary to me especially considering the median income in the US is 32,000. now, my recommendation for a teacher, if you don't think you make enough, then please find a job in another profession.

oh and i buy my own supplies for my job as well so forget that argument. i work overtime without pay as well when necessary so forget that one too.

#31.1 Teacher on 04/08/11 at 07:57 PM

It is so frustrating to see all of the negative comments about teacher salaries. I just don't understand what the complaints are all about. The teachers who have been pointed out on that list are those with upwards of 20 years or more service and advanced degrees just shy of or with doctorate degrees. I chose to teach for several reasons: I love teaching children and watching them learn, the hours and time I get to spend with my family, and last but not least, I make good money. I chose this job just like so many other people can or could have done. By the way, I foster respect in my classroom...I do not expect it from anyone. However, it is easy to see that many people think respect is due them and teach their children that same idea. It does not really matter because I go to work and do a good job...I respect myself for that and I don't need anyone else's. I guess I'm just trying to figure out why so many people think my peers and I are overpaid. Most people get raises...why is it such a leap to think that teachers should get raises as well. If the teachers in Pike were doing a bad job than that would be different, but that is definitly not the case. I've worked in other counties and most lifelong residents of this county do not really understand how bad a school system can be. Anyway, I could go to Atlanta and make 2 times my salary working for my sister but I don't want to work 70 hour weeks...that's called choice...somebody explain to me why my choice to teach, and be paid a decent salary,
raises so much frustration within this community.

#31.1.1 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 11:23 PM

nowhere an any of my posts have i said teachers are overpaid. i said they are paid fairly.

my complaints are about administrators mostly ones in the super's office.

#32 school supplies and such on 04/07/11 at 03:26 AM

It is nice to see that a man who holds himself in such high esteem buying his own supplies for his job. What supplies might those be? How much do they cost? It sounds like you are a hard working man as well. If a teacher only worked the required 190 days, things would be a lot different. Grades would never go home because papers would never get corrected. Finding new and exciting lessons to draw even the most reluctant student into the discussion would be tossed out the window. Forget about talking to a teacher if you have a concern. If a teacher adheres to the clock, there will be no time for conferences. If a student needs extra help, he is gonna be SOL because the extra time teachers spend during their lunch, before and after school, and during their planning will have to be spent doing other things. And finally, the summer could really start on the last day of school and start on the first one because if teachers only work those 190 days, the 2-4 weeks spent during the summer preparing for the following year can be spent on the beach! Of course, this means that NOTHING will be planned or ready for the kids, but that is ok.

As far as supplies, with budget cuts and so forth, I feel guilty asking families to bring in supplies when I know that buying food is a struggle. On an average, I spend around $1500 a year on my students. Books, notebooks, pencils, snacks, and some years even clothing and luches have come out of my pocket. It is done, in part, because there are parents who don't or can't send in what we need, but it is also because I love my job and want every child to have what they need to have a good education.

On the financial side of it, I know I will never be making a lot of money and that is OK because I am a teacher and I LOVE MY JOB!!!! The hours get stressful, some days seem impossible, but it is still what I have chosen to do in life and am good at it. My problem isn't with the money, it is the LACK OF RESPECT that teachers get, not only from students but from adults in the community as well, which is always evident on these blog postings. A dedicated teacher doesn't work 8-4, 5 days a week, summers off. For a dedicated teacher, the work never stops.

#32.1 fat bass tard on 04/07/11 at 08:46 AM

unpaid overtime: nearly every week for 48 weeks of the year not 38.

supplies: in the neighborhood of $10,000 annually.

respect: never heard of it. i'm given a job and i'm expected to do it. i'm not cajoled or treated with kid gloves.

what is it about government workers that make them think they are owed "respect"? respect is earned not owed.

#32.2 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 06:14 PM

From IRS.gov:
If you are an eligible educator, you can deduct up to $250 ($500 if married filing joint and both spouses are educators, but not more than $250 each) of any unreimbursed expenses [otherwise deductible as a trade or business expense] you paid or incurred for books, supplies, computer equipment (including related software and services), other equipment, and supplementary materials that you use in the classroom. For courses in health and physical education, expenses for supplies are qualified expenses only if they are related to athletics. This deduction is for expenses paid or incurred during the tax year. The deduction is claimed on either line 23 of Form 1040 (PDF) or line 16 of Form 1040A (PDF).

#33 you poor fat bass tard on 04/07/11 at 08:46 PM

I am not saying that each individual should get resepect but there are many professions who deserve the respect of their position. I may not like every cop, or teacher, or firefighter, but I respect the job that they do and when I speak about them as a whole, I would never make a disparaging remark towards them because I respect them for what they do.

It is nice to see you buy your own supplies. Since it bothers you so much, maybe you should start using coupons!If I had to buy just for myself, it would be fine, but there I am not the only one in the classroom.

It sounds like your job kinda sucks....why don't you become a teacher! You keep pointing out all of the benefits, lets see how it is when you are doing it first hand. I don't think you would last very long.

#33.1 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 08:33 AM

so because i present facts about teachers pay and the fact that they are paid just fine, i'm making a disparaging remark?

maybe it's your guilt that makes them seem disparaging. if the truth hurts just avoid it. that seems to be the way people are today.

#34 perplexed on 04/07/11 at 11:36 PM

To Fat Bass Tard (and what a classy name, I might add)...When exactly do you work??? Seems to me that all you do is comment on anything and everything you read on this ridiculous newspaper blog. On this topic alone, you have posts morning, afternoon, and night. Must be a cushy job you have. ha I can guarantee you no teachers in this county are doing this!

#34.1 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 08:36 AM

i'm self employed.

#34.1.1 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 08:55 AM

are you a self employed blogger? does your "self employment" ever take you away from the computer?

#34.1.1.1 Brains on 04/08/11 at 09:30 AM

someone needs to put some knowledge into those empty skulls like yours

#34.1.1.2 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 09:41 AM

no, and no.

#35 anonymous on 04/08/11 at 12:26 AM

In reply to all of the "top paying teachers" salary list...Most of them have MANY years experiencce under their belt. They have earned every penny. Until you have been in the school system, you won't quite understand. How can you sit there and down all of these teachers? Teachers don't think they are "owed respect"...what kind of crap is that!!! And about the substitute teachers remark..do you think that teachers who are mothers should send their sick children to school just so they won't miss a day of work. Or when they are sick themselves, going to work? You really need to get your head out of your butt!!! Subs are a must!! Some of these comments on here make me so sick.

I will say that I think that Parapros are underpaid. They should be making more than what they do. They are the ones I would like to see with a better salary.

Pike County has some great teachers. I am proud to work for the school system and I am proud to send my kids to school here!!!!

#35.1 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 08:39 AM

every single government worker i've ever met (i worked as a consultant to several states for 15+ years) thought that you should respect them just because they are who they are...

even the person i responded to came back with "you should respect the job they do".

i earn my way and support my family. maybe i'm owed some respect. does anyone know where the government respect office is, i want my respect!!

#35.2 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 06:02 PM

It's not so much about respect as it is fair. Employee A has 15 years of experience, works 40-50 hours per week, has a Master's degree and works for the state making $42000. Employee B has 15 years exp., works 190 days per year plus extras as needed/desired, has a Master's degree and works for the BOE making $55000. Why is one professional paid so much more?

#36 Anonymous on 04/08/11 at 10:41 AM

WHY DO THEY KEEP ALLOWING THESE PERVERTS TO QUIT?!?!? FIRE THEIR NASTY BUTTS!

They will just move and do the same thing again at their next job and the next place may not find out about their past. BREAK THE CYCLE STUPID!

#37 to fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 05:46 PM

you amused me for a split second. I actually forgot about your ridiculous stances for a very brief moment. In one of your posts you talk about how much you pay for your personal supplies, indicating that you felt teachers should not complain about it because that is just how the world works. You also mentioned overtime and such......YOU ARE SELF-EMPLOYED!!!! You are your own dang boss so if you don't like your working conditions, fix it you fool! You are on this site blogging about everything on here and very seldom is it anything positive. You can quote facts all day long, but nothing is black and white. You can bash teachers and other government workers, you can sit on the computer all day long, but in the long run, your thoughts and ideas don't matter to very many people.

#37.1 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 11:21 PM

and your opinion matters to noone.

#37.2 fat bass tard on 04/08/11 at 11:26 PM

and i never said i didn't like my job, i was simply pointing out that the things the teacher was complaining about happen in every profession.

sorry if that was lost in the translation

#37.3 elcie on 04/09/11 at 08:59 AM

It's ironic that his thoughts and ideas matter enough to motivate a response from you, isn't it?

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