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Pirates fall to Pats

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Friday, November 5. 2010
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The Pike County Pirates carried slim hopes of making the playoffs into their 7:30 p.m. game against the Southwest Macon Patriots Friday night. The Pirates are 5-5 for the season.

2:40 1st quarter. Raymond Tice 5-yard TD reception from Norton. Chau PAT. Pirates 7, Patriots 0.

0:36 2nd quarter. 4-yard TD run by Patriots. Two point conversion no good. Pirates 7, Patriots 6.

Halftime: Pirates 7, Patriots 6.

0:50 3rd quarter. 17-yard TD run by Patriots. Two point conversion good. Patriots 14, Pirates 7.

Final: Patriots 14, Pirates 7.

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#1 curious on 11/05/10 at 08:34 PM
I want to know why 40 or 50 players have quit since the season began? Isn't that a little unusual??
#1.1 carl on 11/06/10 at 08:21 AM
Southwest football game against Pike football team.
#1.2 Mayhem on 11/06/10 at 10:46 AM
That dinged wrist syndrome has become quite contagious. They decided to run off and play more lightweight sports like baseball.
#1.2.1 anonymous on 11/08/10 at 10:03 AM
Were you at the game and paying attention you would have noticed that #11 was back on the field with his "dinged wrist syndrome." Played the whole game on defense to boot. And, he'd been on the sideline and at practice faithfully since his surgery. So why doon't you keep your ridiculous comments about lightweight sports to yourself instead of ignorantly cutting down teenagers in a public forum.
#1.3 pirate parent on 11/06/10 at 03:10 PM
40 to 50 players seemed high to me so I asked my son (who is on the team). He estimates about 30 have quit since summer camp began. About 8 to 10 have quit since the season actually started.

Players have quit for a variety of reasons, I'm sure. At least a couple quit during the winning streak and not surprisingly a few more have since then.

Whether it's unusual or not I wouldn't know. But I do know there were a lot of young men still fired up about playing last night. I also saw seniors torn up not just about losing their final game and missing a shot at the playoffs but about their high school football careers being over. So, I guess I'm more focused on the ones on the team than on those who chose to go in a different direction, regardless of their motivations.
#1.4 Don't Be on 11/06/10 at 04:25 PM
The Head Coach. It should be obvious if you are any kind of football fan or have ever played the game. He doesn't know what he's doing and that is obvious. He's getting all of his offensive plays called in from the offensive coordinater that sits in the booth upstairs. That's where all of the delay of game penalties come from. The offensive coordinater has a thick play book but doesn't know when to put short yardage v/s long yardage plays in. That should have been pretty obvious in Putnam County when they kept calling for the long pass plays when the quarter back only had 3 or 4 seconds to get rid of the ball. It is ultimately up to the head coach to get the plays in and to change the play if necessary. None of the receivers come back to the quarter back when he gets in trouble, they just keep running or stand still. The only part of this team that is solid and consistant is the defense, so I say congradulations to our defensive coordinator (who has more football knowledge in his pinky finger than the head coach has all together). Play kids both ways, this is double A football not quad or 5 A. You can't run a double A football team the same way bigger schools run their teams because you don't have the player to do so. I hope I answered your question.
#1.4.1 anonymous on 11/07/10 at 05:37 AM
I wouldn't have thought the head coach of an NFL team would have had time to read the Pike County paper during football season and to respond to comments in it. But obviously you do.
#1.4.2 anonymous on 11/08/10 at 05:25 AM
Did the coach know what he was doing the first 5 games? Seems like it was working pretty well then - we faced tougher competition the second half of the season and injuries changed the composition of the team both offensively and defensively. My hat's off to the defensive coordinator as well as to the offensive coordinator; both have forgotten more football than you ever knew.
#1.4.2.1 FB Parent #2 on 11/08/10 at 01:36 PM
The team won the first five games in spite of the head coach. The other coaches are great, but the head coach does not inspire any player. Also, Norton came in and gave it all eh had and improved with each game. The other players gave it all they had with encouragement from the other coaches, especially Weber, Warner, Cape and Brown.
#1.4.2.1.1 anonymous on 11/09/10 at 05:52 AM
Norton did do a fine job and he should be commended for it. The assistant coaches also worked hard and did a great job in inspiring the players and keeping them focused. But I think it's a stretch to claim that you win games in spite of a head coach and then blame all the losses on him. Also, how do you know he doesn't inspire any player? Have you polled them all?
#1.4.2.1.1.1 FB parent#2 on 11/09/10 at 07:32 AM
By saying we won in spite of him means that he is a sorry coach and with all players healthy we were able to win. When we lost players he did not have the coaching skills needed to make it work with remaining team. No, I did not poll all the players. I should not have said that he does not inspire anyone, just going on my own observations and what I have heard from some players. Also, what about his character?
#1.5 PCH Football Parent on 11/08/10 at 04:31 PM
Time for Mac to start packing! The boys are over him. If you need any help Mac We have plenty of boys that would love to help you pack-up.
#2 Pike Patriot Homeowner on 11/06/10 at 06:25 AM
I never use the word IF and I never say I told you so BUT. I told yous peoples I had them on the right track and they won. Then then got back in momas SUV and momas took them pizza and Blimpies for lunch. I has closed my case.

IN GOD WE TRUST
#3 Anonymous on 11/06/10 at 07:30 AM
I want to know how you get called for a delay of game after a timeout!!!
#4 jsk on 11/06/10 at 02:11 PM
maybe mr. duncans high dollar coaches need to be replaced.
#5 Anonymous on 11/06/10 at 03:39 PM
How many players did you start with...?
#6 Peanut-Popcorn Vendor on 11/06/10 at 07:54 PM
A team can get a delay of game Penalty after a timeout. Once the Referee blows his whistle, the offense has 25 seconds (I believe) to snap the ball into play. Friday night when the Pirates got that penalty was unexcuseable. Very unorganized staff at that time. Looked as though a Chinese Fire-drill had been implemented into the play book.
#7 chad(lamarco) on 11/07/10 at 06:27 PM
some of you pike people complain to much jus face the facts we had 100 players during spring Now We Down To 50 something we loss our star rb from last year and still finished second 1 Game away from 1st Winner Dont Make Excuses They Use What They Have And Finds Ways To Win We loss our startin qb in our game against henry co. we had 9th grader come in and we still won stop making excuses
#8 FB Parent on 11/08/10 at 05:35 AM
First of all every football program has kids that quit throughout the year, JV and 9th grade seasons ended so they were not dressed out Friday night, giving the impression of a smaller roster. Secondly, when has Pike ever had a winning tradition in football? We have 90 kids out every year, but fewer than 10-15 actual athletes. Every team we play is bigger and faster, just competing should be good enough. Finally, if delay penalties are your biggest complaint, then were doing ok! I think Mac and his staff messed up by going 9-2 two years ago giving you uneducated fans false expectations.
#8.1 anonymous on 11/08/10 at 10:10 AM
Good points FB Parent. As the parent of one of those who was neither "bigger or faster" I was simply proud that he and his teammates played as hard and as smart as they did. This group of coaches seems to get a great deal out of the talent we have; we were in every game but Northeast Macon. CD
#9 Anonymous on 11/08/10 at 01:28 PM
coach mac is most likely not 2 be head coach next year!
i have heard all speculations about if we didn't hav a winnin season he wuld be gone.....

thats y he was nervous wen j-no threw that pic in 4th qtr. and back in the locker room he wasd in tears....

i herd webber... or burton will be takin over head coach
#9.1 Anonymous on 11/08/10 at 03:20 PM
if they are smart they will put WEBBER in that spot!!! He didnt get college championship rings for nothing! He's a very humble man, the kids love and respect him and he knows what he's doing! Pike County better wake up before they lose him.
#9.1.1 me on 11/09/10 at 06:32 AM
Why so Webber can make more money!!!!!!!!!!
I think he already makes more than he's worth.
#10 Anonymous on 11/09/10 at 05:22 AM
They quit because they can't handle it. I played under Coach Knowls and Sessions. And you had to be tough to play for Sessions. I would of loved to see some of the cry babies come out when he coached. We may of not won but a few games when i played cause there were only 23 boys but we were tough.
#11 Anonymous on 11/09/10 at 01:59 PM
May I remind everyone that is this a game. It doesn't matter who is winning as long as these young men are learning the correct things and being led in a way that they should be. These negative people on here should be ashamed of yourselves. Be the solution, not the problem.
#11.1 Anonymous on 11/09/10 at 06:56 PM
Winning does matter! very much! Or I woud not work so hard conditioning and practicing! I do not go to practice each day to lose. You don't go to work to take a pay cut ot get fired do you?
#11.1.1 fat bass tard on 11/12/10 at 07:18 AM
good response young man. i'm sick and tired of the "we're just here to have fun and learn" crowd.

we're teaching our children to be mediocre so that we don't hurt the feelings of those who don't live up to societies standards. instead of requiring everyone to perform at a high level, we lower the bar and tell them to have fun.

put 100% into everything you do young man and you will go far regardless of what your coach or boss tells you.
#12 FB Parent on 11/12/10 at 04:31 AM
I asked my son why the head coach doesn't call in a play to avoid delay of game penalties, and his reply "He doesn't know the plays...He doesn't know our offense!" Huh?? During the season all I heard from my son and his friends, all varsity players, were negatives. Things like He doesn't know the game of football...His speeches are terrible, he doesn't know how to get us fired up...He never coaches during practice, he never teaches us anything...and perhaps the most telling "He's really just a manager." Apparently the only positive thing he has done is hire a lot of good assistant coaches who can do all the work for him.
#12.1 Anonymous on 11/14/10 at 09:20 PM
What is Maddox waiting on
#12.2 anonymous on 11/15/10 at 11:05 AM
I asked my son if Coach Mac knows the offense. His answer - "of course he does." I asked if he knows the plays - same answer, "Of course." He's not paid to make speeches but, according to my son, some of his speeches have been inspiring. He shouldn't have to get players fired up; if they care about the game, he ought to be having to get them calmed down. As for the "only a manager" comment, isn't that exactly what he's supposed to be. If the only positive thing he's done is to hire good assistant coaches, then he's done his job. Head coaches put good people around them and then let those people do their job.
#12.2.1 Very concerned on 11/27/10 at 07:25 PM
I personally think the head coach should be a man of high morals and quality character, a person who is respected by his players...A man who teaches not only football fundamentals, but life lessons as well...a man whom the players look up to, respect, love, and aspire to be like. The head coach should instill discipline in his players, should know how to inspire and motivate them when it is needed. A quality head coach would never be cussed out on the sidelines by key players and certainly not by three key players in two years. I have been watching high school football for 30 years and have never in my life seen that happen, until last season. This program is in the pits, but this town is so satisfied with mediocrity that no one seems to notice or to care. Some of these comments (and excuses) are unbelievable, and with this type of thinking and poor leadership, football in this town will continue to go nowhere. It's a shame for our boys, because they seem to have the desire to learn and to win.
#12.2.1.1 anonymous on 11/29/10 at 02:55 PM
I have made several of the comments in this thread that are supportive of Coach Mac and I would concur that stronger discipline should be enforced against players who cuss at any coach. In at least one case of which I am aware, the player apologized to the coach and to the entire team and did face some punishment. That doesn't excuse the behavior nor does it mean that stronger discipline is not needed.

I have seen some life lessons taught in the years my son has played for Coach Mac. Toward the end of the season, I received a handwritten note from my son; Coach Mac instructed each player and coach to write a note of gratitude to someone. They took about 10 minutes of practice time to do so. I have heard my son tell some of the things Coach Mac has said to the team during the course of the season.

Is he a perfect coach? No. Could he be stricter and firmer? Sure. Should he? Yes. But is he a good coach and a good man? From what I have seen in the four years my son has played for him, my answer is ABSOLUTELY.
#12.2.1.1.1 very concerned on 11/29/10 at 07:48 PM
I'm not talking about discipline that is imposed for the infraction after it occurs. ?? If a team is "disciplined," cussing their coaches out on the sidelines would never even enter their minds.
#12.2.1.1.1.1 anonymous on 11/30/10 at 01:38 PM
Well said and point made. I concur fully and I believe it is something Coach Mac and his entire staff should take into consideration before spring practice starts. I hope he will. That said, I still support him as our coach.
#12.2.1.1.1.1.1 Anonymous on 11/30/10 at 02:50 PM
Discipline should start in the home first. THe player that did the cussing knew what he was doing and knew what the out come would be.... If his parents taught him that was a no no then he would have had more respect for the coach, himself, and his team... My son played under coach Mac for 4 years and i asure you he instilled things in my son and i thank him for it. First of all he has been taught respect and knows what out come will be if he doesnt use it......... People will do and say things when angry and not think about the outcome at that moment. No matter how parents have raised them or how much a coach has taught them....... You cant blame it on coach for what he did...... I assure you Coach Mac is a great man and leader, i have the upmost respect for him as a human being and as an authority in school system.......
#13 Anonymous on 12/06/10 at 08:05 AM
First of all it is Pike County. For over 40 years we have attempted to have a football program but have never put into it what it takes to succeed. We provide glimpses of hope but never quite get there. Second is coaching. Coaches and administration need to do what it takes to succed and be allowed to do so.
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