SPLOST may not make ballot

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A new Georgia law may make it impossible for the Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax referendum to make it on the ballots in November. House Bill 540 was effective July 1 and extends the notice provision from 60 to 90 days.

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#1 Anonymous on 08/18/10 at 06:09 AM

Blows JC's promise and prediction that it would be on the ballot and pass. Of course he has made many predictions that failed to the wayside. When you hire the low bid attorney who does not keep up with law changes this is what we get.

#1.1 Excuse me on 08/18/10 at 07:23 PM

I do not believe you are allowed to use those words together in a post;
low bid attorney
failed
promise
blows
predictions

#1.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 08/23/10 at 05:05 PM

Lol,lol.

#2 fat bass tard on 08/18/10 at 07:20 AM

A special election would cost the taxpayers thousands of dollars.

If you can't make this election cycle it will just have to wait for the next.

#2.1 Pike Patriot Homeowner on 08/18/10 at 07:48 AM

My goal is to get it on the ballot and get it passed. Don't blame the failure of our county attorney on me. It is time we let the tourist who stay at our fine motels, dine at our resturants, shop at all our fine merchant stores and fly into our airport to pay the freight. SPLOST takes it off our local backs to renovate our courthouse.

IN GOD WE TRUST
IN SPLOST WE MUST

#2.1.1 fat bass tard on 08/18/10 at 12:39 PM

PPH - i'm beginning to sense your extreme sarcasm that laces all your posts.

at least i HOPE that's what it is...

#2.1.2 Concord Resident on 08/18/10 at 02:29 PM

I've always figured it for sarcasm. Nobody is that blind about O'blahblah.

#3 Patriot of Pike Renter on 08/18/10 at 02:04 PM

JC and the polecat-5, I am here to gloat. I told you it would not happen. I told you Swift would not make the cut. I told you last splost it would not pass last time. I told you Henderson was a not management material. Willis ain't going to make the cut either. Anything else I can help you all with?

I just can't pick the lottery numbers, I don't know why.

#3.1 rhoda dunn on 08/18/10 at 04:09 PM

I AM GLAD SWIFT IS GONE,and hope all that supported teen challenge gets voted out for the mess they put our county in with a tax-free multi-million dollar business. good by good by. ijust hope tommy powers stays in office. he listened to the citizens of his district and stood alone with them. that to me makes a real leader.

#3.1.1 Good call Rhonda on 08/18/10 at 07:02 PM

Swift and Willis have been grabbing the jokester spotlight at our expense. Swift is out now we must do the same with Willis. The BOC should not be a clown show. It just ain't funny anymore. Time to get down to business.

#3.1.2 Road Department on 08/19/10 at 08:57 PM

Rhonda, when Willis is gone we will have a lot more room in our shop to work on county trucks only. We will not have to worry about Rosey and Marro overiding a BAC test on a kin employee who failed the test @ 6:45 in the morning. His nephew who was driving heavy yellow equipment. Check the records, It happen.

#4 The truth comes out on 08/19/10 at 11:08 AM

ATTENTION CITIZENS OF PIKE COUNTY. I have project for all those who can't decide if they should vote for the splost. Go to the Pike County Tax Assessors web site and click on the search records tab. Accept the statement and select how you want to search but I suggest you do it by name. A few years ago we all approved a program called conservation land use to give people in more populated areas a break on their property taxes if they kept them more or less natural. Well, check out all of the conservation land use going on in this county. Key in the names of your commisioners and supporters of the splost. The reason taxes in Pike County are going up is because property owners have decided they don't have to pay property taxes. If all these property owners don't have to pay, then I don't have to pay any more splost tax. Check out that commisioner who has the newspaper column whose middle name has become splost. I bet you can make up your mind now. NO SPLOST!

#4.1 fat bass tard on 08/20/10 at 11:19 AM

1 - CUVA is only for 10 or more acres of land.
2 - You only get a very small tax break. You still pay plenty of taxes ($5500/year on my 25 acres)
3 - This tax break is available for every citizen with more than 10 acres of land.

#4.1.1 Molena Resident on 08/20/10 at 02:20 PM

Fat bas tard is a bald faced lier. You pay about $6 an acre for your land in taxes and so do almost 1520 parcels of land in this county. THAT IS WHY TAXES ARE RISING PEOPLE. What is your real name. Let us check. This is a sensitive issue for alot of our land owners and they don't want you to know about it. ALL OF THESE "FAIR TAX" PEOPLE and these SPLOST SUPPORTERS have conservation land. Ofcoarse they want a splost. They already have the fair tax thanks to our worthless tax office who NEVER VERIFIES these properties to see that they keep in complience. I call your attention to parcel #004 009 where 203.6 acres of land taxed at $6.25 a an acre is a crime enough but there is also a $500.000 dollar house there that our tax lady has NEVER entered into the record. LOOK IT UP PEOPLE and see for yourself.

#4.1.1.1 fat bass tard on 08/20/10 at 05:59 PM

and you are a cowardly turd.

why don't you give me your name and i'll come show you my tax bill.

#4.1.1.2 fat bass tard on 08/20/10 at 06:28 PM

one more thing...

why don't you post a link to this parcel of land or are you so stupid you don't know how?

#4.1.1.3 fat bass tard on 08/20/10 at 06:30 PM

well, i figured out your name on my own...

Richard Cranium.

#4.1.2 Concord Resident on 08/23/10 at 09:03 AM

I posted a remark about the 10 acres but it didn't make it past the censor for some reason.

If there's a house on that 10 acres then, in my opinion, it shouldn't qualify. The house isn't "conserving" anything. It's developing it.

We can't build on less than three acres. So you should have to own 13 acres if there's a house on that land. 10 can be in CUVA, but the other 3 shouldn't be.

#4.1.2.1 Anonymous on 08/23/10 at 09:23 AM

Makes Sense.....

#4.2 Taxpayer on 08/20/10 at 01:14 PM

Are you suggesting that if you take advantage of a law "you" help pass, then we are not paying taxes??? You'd better take another look at what you are saying. You might also check in the Tax Commissioners office. The CUVA does not exempt you from taxes, it just lowers the value you pay against.

#4.2.1 Sick of it on 08/20/10 at 02:30 PM

Right worthless, you are not exempt from taxes but you pay about 6 bucks an acre. Alot less than I pay for my two acres. Folks, the best thing about the web site listed by #4 is you can verifiy it for yourslf.

#4.2.2 The truth comes out on 08/20/10 at 02:41 PM

I place you under citizens arrest for lieing and ducking taxes. I place Don Collins under citizens arrest for ducking taxes. Who else? State your name so that we may verify your word.

#5 Native on 08/19/10 at 06:01 PM

How about that! Don Collins does not pay property taxes. And it does seem that all the splost supporting, big land owners don't pay property taxes either. NO SPLOST until rich land owners and people who live in private subdivisions on the Flint river decide to pay their fair share. Shame on them!

#5.1 Taxpayer on 08/20/10 at 01:16 PM

You might want to retract that statement. Collins does indeed pay taxes and so does the ones living on the Flint. The ones on the Flint probably pay more than their fair share; check out the land values there....

#5.1.1 Checked it out on 08/20/10 at 06:26 PM

Checked it out Mr. Brisendine and checked you out too. You are Ok now but I will be watching. Your clients on the river are guilty and so is Don Splost Collins. NO SPLOST

#5.2 Pike Patriot Homeowner on 08/24/10 at 09:45 PM

No commissioner Donald Collins does not pay property taxes but I pay his County Health Insurance frill with my taxes! Take a hike Don and Tommy Powers!

IN GOD WE TRUST

#5.2.1 Taxes and county health ins. on 09/02/10 at 08:47 AM

Hey Mr. Patriot who pays your health insurance? The school board still do it? Nah, the United States Taxpayer pays yours and it is a hell of a lot! Why does a true patriot pay it in Alabama and live in Georgia?

#6 Pike Patriot Homeowner on 08/20/10 at 06:44 AM

SPLOST will be on the ballot and the voters will pass this much needed referendum. House Bill 540 will have no effect on Pike County. Our county attorney will claim Sovereign Immunity and Imminent Domain as he did in the case of setbacks on Commissioner Parrish Swifts firehouse property. Case Closed.
I will not gloat, just fact.

IN GOD WE TRUST
IN SPLOST WE MUST

#7 Anonymous on 08/20/10 at 09:45 AM

Comment #4 needs to be brought to public attention thru the newspaper

#7.1 NO SPLOST on 08/20/10 at 09:59 AM

sounds like a polecat whine....some want the splost to pass so bad they can taste it. when are you all going to realize we are fed up with taxes? "TEA" mean anything?

#7.1.1 former "polecat5" member on 08/20/10 at 04:04 PM

I have finally seen the light. I will not be like rats jumping from a sinking ship, I'm off while there is still time. Please accept my application to join the "PJR1000." It will be a honor to be part of your team of informed citizens.

#7.2 Sheila Tolley on 08/23/10 at 05:15 PM

It is. It is right above 4.1

#8 Molena Resident on 08/20/10 at 03:12 PM

Stay strong hardworking, propety tax paying citizens of Pike County. The rats have been exposed and it is going to get nasty. Walter, please run an article so all taxpayers can learn how to check for themselves about who pays their way and who does not. Check Eppinger Bridge Road for an example about who does and who does not pay taxes.

#9 Checked it out on 08/23/10 at 03:25 PM

Margie please pay property taxes on at least one of your 7 properties. HOW DARE YOU ONLY PAY 7.15 PER ACRE ON ALL YOUR PROPERTY AND THEN TRY TO HAVE A TAX PROTEST. Honest citizens do your research!

#9.1 Concord at Large on 08/23/10 at 03:44 PM

Thank you Checked it out for exposing Margie as yet another vocal non tax paying property owner who has a big mouth. Hard working tax payers of Pike County stay strong. Mr. Collins, we will see you at the polls.

#9.1.1 Margie Trammell on 08/23/10 at 09:37 PM

There are laws and rules in place that demand taxation of property both real and personal. Land values are based on state and county regulations and condemnation of people who put what little money they have worked hard for into land instead of fancy cars or tv's is typical of a class of people who want to eat the cake someone else labored to bake and leave the crumbs for someone else to clean up.

When you have people you don't know willing to sacrifice their family time, their work time, their money and their personal comfort to demand our commissioners express careful consideration of the upcoming budget so that your tax dollars can be more carefully spent you should be grateful; I know I am.

I am grateful for every man and woman who showed up in freezing weather in February this year to protest unwise spending and I am grateful for every man and woman (some brought their kids along) who showed up at the more recent school board hearings to ask questions and demand accountability of how your tax dollars are spent.

I will continue to do what I can to hold elected officials accountable for their actions and I will continue to encourage people like you to come to meetings.

I am really sorry that you feel you need to hide behind a silly screen name to throw stones at people like me and hey if it is personal call me.

#9.1.1.1 Concord at Large on 08/24/10 at 11:43 AM

Well well, I went to the tax site myself and there does seem to be question of honesty on your part. Checked it does seem to have a point.

#9.1.1.2 Taxpayer on 08/24/10 at 07:39 PM

Don't let her/him get to you Margie. You made application and the Assessors approved it so you have not done anything illegal or immoral. By law, if you make application and they approved it, then you are entitled to CUVA. Until the laws change, you have every right to do so. Keep up the good work!

#9.1.1.2.1 Concord at Large on 08/24/10 at 10:31 PM

Carrol you would certainly know about that being on the tax board. Yes, you were one of the first people I checked on the web site and you seem to be legal tax wise. I'm not sure you or anyone else on the board belongs there as there do seem to be alot of conservation tax cheats out there. We shall see, we shall see.

#9.2 Show me! on 08/23/10 at 05:59 PM

I do not believe for one moment Margie Trammel would be guilty of not paying her fair share. Don Collins without a doubt, he is the county leech. Until I see different I will as always consider Margie a county leader with true personal values. Where are you coming up with $7.15 per acre?????

#9.3 Margie Trammell on 08/23/10 at 06:45 PM

Go back and check it again doll, your figures don't add up.

:>)

#9.3.1 Checked it out on 08/24/10 at 11:26 AM

I checked it out babe. The property your house and out building are built on has 33.23 land conservation acres out of a total 33.23 total. Woops! The worthless tax accessor let you get away with it because she never leaves her office to check anything. How dare you now get self rightous because you have been caught. I was out protesting with you but it is now clear I was protesting against people who build their houses on conservation land and cause everyones taxes to go up.

#9.3.1.1 Are you positive?? on 08/24/10 at 12:33 PM

You are saying that property is paying only $237.59 for 33.23 acres? How about all the other property in seven acre lots in the Windy Hills planned subdivison? Is that also $7.15 per acre? How does that compare to Flat Shoals gated community?

#9.3.1.1.1 Taxpayer on 08/24/10 at 07:51 PM

The lots in the Shoals subdivision are appraised at $120,000 each. You can buy them all day long now for about $60,000 - $65,000 each.

#9.3.2 Anonymous on 08/25/10 at 05:50 AM

Whosit figures are skewed.

#10 Molena Resident on 08/24/10 at 11:38 AM

Like I said above, things are going to get nasty as the rats will fight and lie to keep all us regular property taxpayers in the dark. I am sorry that Margie has to cut and paste her cannned speech in a act of desperation.

#11 Anonymous on 08/24/10 at 03:12 PM

LET"S GET READY TO RRUUUUMMMBBBBBBLLLEEE!!

#12 Anonymous on 08/24/10 at 05:16 PM

Concord at Large is your address Willianson? Do you also have your own blog site? Are you a member of the planning board? Now what site are you pulling up for CUVA and property tax on individuals?

#12.1 Concord Resident on 08/24/10 at 07:08 PM

No Concord at Large, but I can tell you the web address. It's a matter of public record.

www.pikeassessor.com

#12.1.1 huh on 08/25/10 at 05:14 AM

land value is listed on the assessors site but I don't see no price paid in tax money so how do you find that out?

#12.1.1.1 Anonymous on 08/25/10 at 02:14 PM

There is a book available for public view at the Tax commissioners office. That holds that info.

#13 Concord at Large on 08/24/10 at 09:52 PM

First of all thankyou post #4 for bringing all of this to our attention. You are the hoest taxpayers friend. Second, if you are cheating on your property taxes by building on conservation land and then not reporting it, then you should be sitting in the Pike County jail. End of story. This is especially true if you are a tax protester or BOC member. For the rest of this week as a gift to all honest taxpayers in this county, I will resarch every conservation parcel, see who has built on that land and then somehow publish the names. I have a legal right to the information and an obligation to do so. For those of you have alot of conservation land and then still complain about taxes shame on you. I will publish your names too. Molena Resident, you are right and indeed, things are going to get nasty. That sorry tax accessor needs to be investigated and we will do that too.

#13.1 Taxpayer on 08/25/10 at 08:01 AM

Show me in the law where you cannot build on land that is in CUVA???

#13.2 v smith on 08/25/10 at 01:21 PM

you need to be very careful about publishing peoples names without permission.

it WILL get you a world of lawsuits.

#13.2.1 yeah but on 08/25/10 at 04:24 PM

all the judges are on trial.

#13.3 v smith on 08/25/10 at 01:23 PM

you also need to know that molena resident doesn't have a clue what he/she is talking about in regards to the rules for CUVA.

#13.3.1 Concord at Large on 08/25/10 at 02:33 PM

Vonda, perhaps you should pay attention to your failed real estate career or your husbands failed political ambitions instead of showing your ignorance here.

#13.3.1.1 v smith on 08/25/10 at 08:47 PM

maybe you ought to guess again instead of just plain being ignorant.

#14 Checked it out on 08/25/10 at 02:46 PM

Well Concord at large, I accept the compliment and have been looking up few myself. I'm going over the smiths and will let you know who the big mouth is but I suspect that individual is tax cheat. It's all a matter of public record you rich, land owning red neck v smith.lol

#14.1 v smith on 08/25/10 at 08:48 PM

i see the idiots are out in force tonight.

if any of you think that molena resident, concord at large or checked it out have a clue then you are clueless.

#15 ME THINKS on 08/25/10 at 02:53 PM

NO ONE POSTS ON THE PCAT ANY MORE SO THEY CAME OVER HERE TO START SOME $#**%&$^

#16 v smith on 08/25/10 at 09:00 PM

i'm going to prove that molena resident, concord at large and checked it out are all liars.

here we go...

post a link any one of you that shows what any of these people pay in property taxes.

go ahead liars, post it!!

#16.1 Molena Resident on 08/31/10 at 09:58 PM

Vickie, Vickie, Vickie. I checked you out and you have 24 acres out of 24 acres as conservation land yet you have a house there. Wooops, you are in violation. Concord at Large, lets prove it to everyone and demand an investigation!

#16.1.1 v smith on 09/01/10 at 09:11 AM

sorry dummy, dummy dummy. not vickie either.

#16.1.2 v smith on 09/01/10 at 10:08 AM

i'll help you out see if you can put that massive brain (both cells) to work on this... it's one of these names:

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#16.2 Concord at Large on 08/31/10 at 10:08 PM

I am so sorry, you are not who I thaught you were. You are Vickie. Vickie, it does appear you have built on conservation land and not reported it. Folks, once you find your cheats at the web site, go on in to the tax office and look at the tax book, they have to show it to you because it is public record. Threaten Ms. Tax Lady with the law, and she comes around real quick. She has alot to hide.

#16.2.1 v smith on 09/01/10 at 09:13 AM

sorry dummy, dummy dummy. still guessing wrong.

#16.3 Anonymous on 09/01/10 at 05:42 AM

I've told you before, You must go to the tax commissioners office and look at the book. it is available for public inspection.

#16.3.1 v smith on 09/01/10 at 09:16 AM

so make a copy and post it here. it's public record.

the thing is you can't because the things that have been said are OUTRIGHT LIES.

you keep coming up with excuses as to why you can't show anyone because you have not idea what you are talking about.

same as the two idiots above you in this blog molena idiot and idiot at large.

#17 v smith on 08/26/10 at 07:58 PM

like i said, nothing but liars

#18 Anonymous on 08/31/10 at 04:05 PM

When the people vote and say they dont want something , why do the ones that do want it keep bringing it back until it is voted in?I have seen this happen time after time .

#18.1 Bean Counter on 08/31/10 at 06:54 PM

I can't figure that one out either. I guess they are he!! bent on wanting all of our money, just like obama.

Glory days are coming.........

#19 Taxpayer on 09/01/10 at 07:23 AM

Y'all need to get your facts straight; it is NOT against the law to live in a house on land that is in CUVA. Read the law!!!

#19.1 Checked it out on 09/01/10 at 09:42 AM

Hey Hey, HO HO, dead beat taxpayers have to go. Ha Ha lol. Vickie also has a storage building and a swimming pool on that land. Look up the law yourself you hick. Lets see, Don, Margie, Vickie and #19 should all be sitting in the Pike County Jail. If you
build on part of that land you can not claim it all as conservation land dead beat.

#19.2 fat bass tard on 09/01/10 at 11:29 AM

Taxpayer - please don't confuse the fools with the facts.

MR, CAL and checked don't have a clue, they are just trying to stir up stuff with a bunch of lies. V has already called them on it twice with the only response being excuses.

#20 Sick of it on 09/01/10 at 10:20 AM

I have never been in that tag office when one of them was not talking to their boyfriend, on the phone with their kids or filing their fingernails. No wonder all these people get away with cheating. Is there some way to get the State to look in to our situation with the tax accessor?

#21 Work for a living on 09/01/10 at 02:00 PM

I can not wait any longer, I have to comment. This is my first time so here goes. Its not fair for someone who has ten acres with a house and whatever built there to get the full 10 acres at a reduced rate. Not when all the regular people like me on 2 acres has to carry those selfish tax cheats like Vickie, Margie, Don and fat bas tard. Why is fat bas tard even commenting at all. He ran away when days ago when it was shown he was a bald faced lier. You know, as much as I hate to admit it, Molena resident #10 is right. The rats(tax cheats) are really getting nasty. Is it possible to swear out a warrant on Margie, Vickie and Don plus the tax assessor and fat bas tard? These people and the other big land owners don't pull their weight and I am sick of it.

#21.1 v smith on 09/01/10 at 08:32 PM

another one of the clueless...

i'm guessing molena idiot, idiot at large, checked it idiot and working as an idiot are all the same idiot.

#21.1.1 Molena Fire Bug on 09/02/10 at 06:11 AM

I don't have enough land to get into Cuva. Can I count my water tower?

#22 Concord at Large on 09/01/10 at 04:18 PM

Hold on honest taxpayers. Look at all the comments from v.smith. V Smith seems to be a few cards short of a deck. I mean check it out. CRAZY. Yall might set her off.

#23 v smith's neighbor on 09/01/10 at 04:29 PM

V smith is my neighbor and her husband has just gotten out of jail. They are having a hard time money wise and don't need y'all getting them in any more trouble than they are presently in. I will pray for the smiths tonight, how about you.

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