Investigators from the Pike County sheriff's office are looking into the death of a Williamson child, sheriff Jimmy Thomas and coroner Terrell Moody have confirmed.
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the hands of the women that was head of the residence in which this child dies has been been taking care of her niece which calls her mama and has been for many years, anyone that knows this young lady knows that she loves kids no matter who they belong to and how old they are, i understand dfcs doin they job but they didn't have to do it in the manner it was done, the mother of the child has already lost one why not be a lil bit more considerate? they shouldve done more investigation before taking them the same way they ask hella questions about everything else!
I drove by the house as well on Saturday morning. I can't believe it was a baby. I saw the coroner there and I figured it was an elder person that had passed...never would have thought it would be a baby less than a mile from my own home. I have a 6 year old and a 10 month old. My 10 month old still sleeps in the room with me because I'm terrified something will happen....my 6 year old was in my room for 3 years. Regardless of what happened, it's still sad and my heart goes out to loved ones.
Get rid of the DHS logo, that's an insult to this family! DFCS is nothing but a corrupt organization that just strives to profit from tearing families to pieces!
i totally agree... me can't even discipline our own with out them getting involved... they need to concentrate on the ones that really being abused and neglected and let us live our lives... my heart goes out to this family as well... could it just be a simple fact that it might have been natural causes... but just cause he is two they are looking into it... if it is that much of a concern shouldn't the investigators be looking into it not DFCS... if foul play is determined then DFCS should get involved... last time i checked DFCS was not law enforcement
#7
The bottom line is lets no argue about this
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05/25/10 at 08:22 AM
Save the negative thoughts for another post, this is tragic no matter what. God Bless this CHild and Family!
I suppose here in the south, we still operate on the idea that if it did not work for me then it must not work for anyone. Lets just forget the thousands of children they help each year by removing them from abusive situations and focus on the few times DFCS got it wrong. And if we hold everyone up to that standard, be prepared to be judged for the rest of your life by your worst mistakes instead of your successes.
Negative thinking is very narrow minded.. constructive criticism is much more productive.
I suppose you are a wealthy person who has never had to deal with the demons of DFACS!Would you people please undersand this...... an employee who makes less than 27,000./year see's a vengful call to DFACS as a blonde haired blue eyed BIG FAT BONUS! The judges of our system help them too by letting them NOT MAKE REASONABLE EFFORTS!
Please educate yourself. There is no "BONUS" given in state government jobs. No DFCS employees get anything above a set salary, period, and currently those are cut by Furlough. Education is the key to your frustration, ignorance will only feed your anger.
I BEG YOUR PARDON! If DFACS takes your child and then is able to adopt him out because of lies and fabrications about you... That county office gets an average of 6,000.00 per head~! Where does that money go? That's just it it goes to the office and what the director does with it is her business.. therefore, if you are the investigator who has gotten my county office an extra 3 kids this year by lying in court then no one will know if I give you a damn crystal bowl, buy you some gas or give you a check. Some of the money is spent to pay professional grant writers who write grants that are presented to the GOV for more money to open up new Service Facilities so they can charge the parent to take more classes that their friends and family probably TEACH or OWN THE BUILDING IT'S TAUGHT IN!!! NOW suppose the judge who overlooked the Failure to Provide reunification services before removal is looking to get reelected this year... Do you suppose you couldn't throw her a few freakin hundred or thousand to make sure she overlooks it next time too? YOU Stupid People are the reason that parents lose their kids into the system in the blink of an eye NEVER TO SEE THEM AGAIN!It can happen just that fast, without sometimes even proper notice of the hearing,without an attorney present and based on Lies that are breathed into a hotline by someone who has vowed to GET YOU or by a grandmother who thinks she is better at being a mommy than the mother is.. They call the child is in the system and then they might decide that GRANNY is not fit either so the child disappears.. No visitation, no phone calls no family placement! FOSTER CARE... NOBODY'S FIT!(or at least they don't look fit to US!)More Children die in foster care than children who live with their birth families! Also there are studies that infants brians are more affected by removal from their parents than if they had been left in even a mildly abusive home! BRAINS!!! BRAINS DEFECTS DON'T GO AWAY! Also 92% of the CRACK BABIES from the 90's only suffer from the stigma of being termed A CRACK BABY and not the result of parental drug use during pregnancy! WHICH I DO NOT CONDONE I AM JUST SAYING! YOU HAVE NO IDEA!! There are over 800,000 internet sites about the government kidnapping these children and adopting them out never to be seen again based on lies! Do you think all of these people just put these websites up to have something to do? Do you think that? Do you know that when a judge of the juvenile court decides to take your child and not give it to the grandparent who worked for the county all of her life because she is UNFIT even though she is wealthy, able and ready, that judge then has ABSOLUTE JUDICIAL IMMUNITY FROM ANYTHING YOU DO TO GET THE CHILD BACK WITH FAMILY? I've heard lawyers lie to the parents and say there is nothing we can do or file when OH YES THERE IS but you only have 30 days, dang we missed it I'm sorry, just do the caseplan and maybe you'll get the child back, by the time the caseplan is complete if they ever admit that it is, the child is already in a foster home for a year who wishes to adopt him and he is STABLE NOW WE CAN'T MOVE HIM HE'S BONDED WITH THEM NOW we will have to terminate your rights!
DFACS changed their minds and wanted my daughters 2 stepsons BACK with their abusive mother and her boyfriend after they had let the boys live with my daughter and her husband (their father) for about a year.(while waiting for custody hearing)
DFACS was VERY abusive to my daughter and her husband when tehy changed their minds.
That is, until a JUDGE was good enough to see thru them and their corruption.
All we could come up with on why all this happened, was that DFACS was scared that the mothers boyfriend, who is black, would sue them if they kept him away from the boys, BECAUSE he is black, not because he BEAT ON THEM.
Not sure if that is fact, but can't think of any other reason that DFACS WANTED these children to RETURN to an ABUSIVE environment AFTER they had already TAKEN THEM OUT...
White, black, pink, green, striped....it matters not! If anyone here was mean in any way to this child.....I hope someone "takes care of them" before the law has time to read them their rights and grant their many appeals.
I have reported someone to DFACS beofre, the husband and wife I reported both smoke dope, and party constantly. They allow this baby to be filthy, eat cigarette butts, and so forth. Their hose os absolutley disgusting...but when dfacs went out there, she said it was immaculate. I would like to know, imacculately filthy. DFACS told me that a crack mama can keep her kids, and smoke it in the same house as her child as long as the child is fed, and is dressed! So, I told them...they better hope and pray to GOD nothing happens to my brandbaby because of their negligence! Now, how refreshing is that to have DFACS tell you that? DFACS is nothing more than a bunch of undereducated idiots who don't give a rats --- about these kids, all they care about is their paychecks that we pay them! FIRE THEM ALL!
Maybe all the posters should look at the article just under this one. I'm betting one or all of them has kids Still think DFACS is an unneccesary agency?
#11.2
Concerned about Concerned
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05/27/10 at 06:27 PM
Oh my! a disgusting hose! what is the world coming to? LOL that is so cute
To the best of my understanding DFCS is legally required to become involved in a child fatality and participate in a review of the circumstances of the child's death. This does not imply that the caregivers had committed an act of abuse/neglect. True, there are some horror stories about the " baby snatchers " as well as the workers who do " drive by " home assessments. I would hope that we have neither in Pike and if we do they get moved on down the road. The experiences citizens have had statewide - and the bad ones sell newspapers not the success stories - is one reason I requested and received appointment to the local BOD. I want these workers to be supported, do their jobs but also use common sense.Best thoughts for the little one's loved ones.
Maybe think about apologizing for calling the hundreds of men and women that work for DFCS useless and needing to be fired instead of worrying about your typos (which were also present in the apology for the typos entry .. hmmm)
I hope that you guys are not suggesting that this child was abused. My daughter is friends of the family and they would never hurt one of these kids. I'm hearing he just never woke up.
No, I'm not suggesting that at all! I read the article and understood it was due to undetermined means. Twhich I respect). I just understand how DFACS work, they are there willing to mess with the people they don't need to be concerned about, and they don't mess with the ones they should. I hope God brings this family peace, and love, and harmony during this difficult time. I couldn't even imagine losing a child. My hearts go out to them! May God bless this family!
DFCS staff does not have the authority or power to go "mess with people" just because they want to. There are LAWS that mandate them to do it and Judges that order them to do it, School personnel that continuously call them until they feel obligated Law Enforcment that ask them to, RELATIVES that call and so on. If you don't like DFACS procedures, contact your legislature and ask them to change Mandated Reporter laws and deprivation laws that mandate someone to respond to child abuse reports. CHild death cases are a mandatory DFCS response by the way, it in no way means there was any negligence by the parent
I hope that's not true, but either way you shouldn't be on here spreading rumors. Wait for the official findings before you report what you've "heard".
To all readers, before making any comments about this case whether good/bad I think you might want to wait on the real story. There are pros/cons about DFACS but if everyone took care of their kids like they are suppose to then DFACS wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If you have a loved 1 in a deprived household you can always file your on private case in Juvenile Court if you feel that they didn't do their job right.
Your a total douche bag, there were no typo's. And before you defend DFACS, tell that to all the kids that are abused and no one helped them, the ones who were aboused and killed at the hands of their parents because of DFACS failing to do their job. Your a damn moron! You must work for them. People like you are an embarassment to this country.
"I apologise for the typo's above, I get really fired up about this type situations"
So I assume your mispelling "apologize" and the subject-verb agreement was not a typo and just ignorance. That's ok, I make mistakes when typing blogs,too; however, your nasty name-calling and poor grammar tells us more about you than your comment. Good luck to you and I hope you find peace with your situation.
not much "concern" with spelling /grammar on the blog here... The "critique" was made when Concerned said "Your a total douche bag, there were no typo's"
See? the irony is he doesn't realize they are typos, so they aren't typos; thus, the need for one to point this out to Concerned. Thanks for your question.
#20.1.1.1.1
Concord Resident
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05/27/10 at 07:41 PM
Spelling, grammar, name calling and issues of that type are the least of this family's worries. They lost a child. This kind of petty back and forth can't be easy for them to read. Quite frankly, it says nobody gives a damn that a child is dead. They'd rather pick apart the spelling abilities on the blogs.
it was only critiqued because they said there were no typos
#20.1.1.4
PikeCo Gal to Concord Res and Concerned
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05/31/10 at 07:53 AM
I'm afraid you're mistaken, Concord Resident. Insults and name calling are the first signs of a lost argument.
DFACS has a job to do- an overwhelming one, thanks to a very flawed, and seemingly deteriorating social system. They are over-burdened and underpaid. If you don't believe me, then spend some time talking to someone who works there or better, walk a mile in their shoes.
The best place for a child to grow up is in a loving, stable family home, with a mother and a father. Unfortunately, those are too few and far between these days. I was blessed to have one.
That said, I couldn't imagine my grandmother ever using profanities like the ones 'Concerned' did in her posts. "Rats--s", "damn moron" and ..."douche bag"? This grandmother's poor vocabulary is far more concerning to me than her grammatical faux pas. Another, sad example of the erosion of the family unit, I suppose.
Sure, as soon as you produce all the children that were helped by DFACS so we can tell them. Hope things get better for the baby you mentioned.
#21
Also concerned about Concerned
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05/27/10 at 07:17 PM
Well that confirms it. Really bad grammar, poor spelling and tacky name calling. Blame the ones that are hurting the child and not countless people you don't know
Can you call DFACS if the kids are older (16) and the parents let their kids and other kids drink and smoke pot?The wonderful parents buy it for them!I really need some help with this,My kid will never go back to that house,since I have found out what really goes on over there!please no fights please !I just want some advice what I should do!
PLEASE DONT RUIN SOMEONES LIFE LIKE THAT! KEEP YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM IT BUT UNLESS YOU SEE PHYSICAL ABUSE PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THAT CALL! If I knew my kids were gunna use anyhow, i'd rather them do it at home instead of in a car on the road like we used to do.
Call the damn P.O.L.I.C.E./ S.H.E.R.I.F.F. not DFACS! If they can't do anything then maybe you should mind ur own BUSINESS! (and lock ur house up for those HILLBILLYS take ur 4 wheeler)
The truth is no one knows what happened in that house. I think DFACS has had their share of bad stories in the past. But they also have success stories. I think resorting to attacking each other is not solving the problem. In the mean time, we as adults, should refrain from being childish, and remember the real reason this blog is here. This innocent child lost his life rather by natural causes or other undetermined means. But this family needs our prayers and support right now. If something sinister did happen to this child, which I pray is not the case, the justice system will handle the judging. That is NOT our jobs. Opinions are like A**holes, everyone has one, but just because its yours, doesent mean its right. God Bless!
I agree. It's bad enough that the mother and the family has to deal with the death of a child and on top of that all of this talk and judging when we really don't know what happpened. I will continue to pray for this family!
Would you like to be a court watcher and sit in on private juvenile court hearings so that you can educate yourself? Crap it doesn't happen when someone's watching! I can recount my 30 minute hearing by heart it happened so fast and then my child was gone! The judge doesn't remember it and no need to hunt the courthouse down for the record because it can't be found! The orders read totally different than what was said in the courtroom! Full of lies! You have 30 days to save those transcripts! Officer says in court " Their eyes were red and they were talking about going outside and smoking pot when I left." The orders say "the mother was rude to the officer!" not a reason to take my child, but my eyes being red and talking about using drugs IS! Shhhhh only behind closed doors, then we have to destroy the record for someone askes for it and realizes we false OMG SWEARED!
What really gets me about DFACS is that when some one is reported to them, they usually let the person their investigating know their coming to their home.So, the person hurrys up and cleans house, puts food in the house,hides the drugs, etc. Why don't they just show up unannounced, and maybe they'll find out what they was called ther for.I don't know much about this family but, wait til the investigation is over before judging this mother.I'm sorry for your loss , this can't be easy. May God bless you and your family.
DFACS should place the child or children with family not foster parent they do not love them like the family will all they want is the money not the children.
Mrs. Schaefer spoke her OPINION on what goes on in DFACS but she doesn't really know what the caring people that work there really do.
She lost her seat in the Senate in 2008 because no one agreed with her
She also did not pay her bills. When her husband killed her, they owed $755,000 and they were going to loose their house and everything they had. Sad story. It would be best to learn from more unbiased sources
Wow I didn't know anything about Nancy Shaefer. THe comments under the video state the media was trying to keep this quiet and state it was murder/suicide. Wow.
I have 1st hand experience as well on how corrupt DFACS is.
Speaking of corruption, Tonya Craft a kindergarten teacher found innocent is now suing for 25 million dollars. She's suing law enforcement, her ex-husband and those who went along with his lies,and lied themselves.
I haven't heard if she was threatened, run off the road, almost blown up, her pets killed, or if her home was broke into several times and property destroyed. Or if her tools and equipment was stolen or rendered useless.
I bet she didn't have it all on paper to show corruption but the truth came out anyway!
Negative thinking is very narrow minded.. constructive criticism is much more productive.
F (Focus)
A (And)
C (Call)
S (Sheriff)
Get straight to help DFACS is a waste of time.
C: Call DFCS
O: or
P: Paperwork
DFACS was VERY abusive to my daughter and her husband when tehy changed their minds.
That is, until a JUDGE was good enough to see thru them and their corruption.
All we could come up with on why all this happened, was that DFACS was scared that the mothers boyfriend, who is black, would sue them if they kept him away from the boys, BECAUSE he is black, not because he BEAT ON THEM.
Not sure if that is fact, but can't think of any other reason that DFACS WANTED these children to RETURN to an ABUSIVE environment AFTER they had already TAKEN THEM OUT...
It's still a terrible loss.
So I assume your mispelling "apologize" and the subject-verb agreement was not a typo and just ignorance. That's ok, I make mistakes when typing blogs,too; however, your nasty name-calling and poor grammar tells us more about you than your comment. Good luck to you and I hope you find peace with your situation.
See? the irony is he doesn't realize they are typos, so they aren't typos; thus, the need for one to point this out to Concerned. Thanks for your question.
DFACS has a job to do- an overwhelming one, thanks to a very flawed, and seemingly deteriorating social system. They are over-burdened and underpaid. If you don't believe me, then spend some time talking to someone who works there or better, walk a mile in their shoes.
The best place for a child to grow up is in a loving, stable family home, with a mother and a father. Unfortunately, those are too few and far between these days. I was blessed to have one.
That said, I couldn't imagine my grandmother ever using profanities like the ones 'Concerned' did in her posts. "Rats--s", "damn moron" and ..."douche bag"? This grandmother's poor vocabulary is far more concerning to me than her grammatical faux pas. Another, sad example of the erosion of the family unit, I suppose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TcDTJlPWbE
It's a speech Nancy Schaefer gave before she was murdered.
I know they are over worked, but on a job you do as your told.
She lost her seat in the Senate in 2008 because no one agreed with her
She also did not pay her bills. When her husband killed her, they owed $755,000 and they were going to loose their house and everything they had. Sad story. It would be best to learn from more unbiased sources
I have 1st hand experience as well on how corrupt DFACS is.
I haven't heard if she was threatened, run off the road, almost blown up, her pets killed, or if her home was broke into several times and property destroyed. Or if her tools and equipment was stolen or rendered useless.
I bet she didn't have it all on paper to show corruption but the truth came out anyway!
More power to her!