Is the Republican party the new Trojan horse?

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Thursday, March 4. 2010

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By Robert Heiney
President Obama wants to meet with the Republicans to put together a compromise government health bill where everybody walks away from the table with something.

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#1 Barry on 03/04/10 at 07:34 PM

I don't think the Republicans will roll over. The Blue Dogs, I'm not so sure about.

#2 Danny Blount on 03/04/10 at 09:34 PM

This healthcare thing is killing me. I hope it is enough to send us over the edge as a nation into a radical change of our political parties. Government Control and Efficiency should never be used in the same sentence. When has our government ever taken control of anything and made it cost less, or made it more efficient? Do you really want the government to decide whether you get a stainless steel implant for $1200 or an athletic titanium ceramic implant for $12,000? I want to pick and choose my own stuff, and I don't want to have to fly to Dubai to get it (but believe me, I will if I have to, because when I need one, I want the best one). Republicans better wake up or they will find themselves without a party over the next decade.

#3 David Rawlins on 03/05/10 at 12:27 PM

We desperately need a new political party that represents conservative Americans.

#3.1 Anonymous on 03/08/10 at 02:55 PM

That will happen when conservatives are in the majority. Perhaps Democracy is not working for you but it did for the majority of America in 2008.

#3.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/09/10 at 02:31 PM

You mean when America elected this clown that has taken us from a 400 Billion dollar deficit to a 1600 billion ( i didn't use 1.6 trillion so that you can see the differenct) dollar deficit.

Can't you see that the reason our economy continues to flounder is because of the unsustainable debt that BO continues to accumulate?

#3.1.1.1 Anonymous on 03/10/10 at 08:36 PM

Right..his administration has everything to do with the disaster that occurred prior to him coming into office.

#4 Lothar on 03/06/10 at 07:32 AM

How about a political party that represents all Americans, not just conservative or liberal, whatever those words mean. I have yet heard or seen one positive suggestion from the republicans concerning health care. Nor have I seen or heard a viable plan put forth by the Democrats. Not one of our "elected" federal officials (or state, either, for that matter) give one hoot about the opinions of those that elected them. The main goal of Congress is to get re-elected.... and bray like jackasses over nonsense. A prime example is that Boner person, the one with the store bought tan. or how about Sen. Dodd? A fine example of the Peter Principle.
Health care reform should be handled with common sense, not political agendas.

#4.1 David Rawlins on 03/06/10 at 09:23 AM

The reason the health insurance industry (NOT HEALTH CARE) is in a mess now is because of the US Government interference in the open market.

#4.1.1 Lothar on 03/06/10 at 05:47 PM

Not so. Health insurance and health care are two different animals, feeding from the same trough. And government interference is not what caused health insurance costs to spiral out of control. If anything it was the lack of interference, the whimsical attitude of no regulation means better service, ala your beloved Bonzo Reagon. Health insurance, pharmaceutical, and hospital/doctor care costs have all gone beyond the means of the average, middle class American citizen. And washington has once again ignored the cause of the problem and focused on the most unimportant aspect of reform. And as far as the health insurance industry being in a mess now? How so? The major insurance companies are reaping gigantic profits, much like the big oil companies. All with the blessings of Congress.

#4.2 David Rawlins on 03/06/10 at 07:33 PM

The reason you haven't heard any republican suggestions is because you've been listening to liberal media.

Check the drudge report.

#4.2.1 Anonymous on 03/08/10 at 03:12 PM

Ok. Republicans have suggestions..but none of them are viable. Like Mr. Grayson said "Dont get sick but if you do, die quickly".

#4.2.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/08/10 at 06:57 PM

That was actually a democrap that said that. Might want to work on your sources a bit.

#4.2.1.2 Sheila Tolley on 03/09/10 at 10:13 AM

i am glad Ted Kennedy listened.

#5 Sheila Tolley on 03/06/10 at 04:38 PM

If obama plans another of his midnight rendezvous, and he and Pukelosi manage to pass this BILL, where will doctors come from in the future? Does anyone really think intelligent people are going to go to Medical School so elected morons can write their futures?

#6 Lothar on 03/07/10 at 08:08 AM

Liberal media? In other words, not the half truths and downright lies of the Limbaughs and Becks.... entertainers for the fascist ultra right? And you tell me what, if any, ideas or suggestions republicans have put forth concerning health care reform. All they've done is pursue a smear campaign against Democrats and Obama. Hmmmmm... would that indicate republicans are closet racists?????
And oh good. The Pike County bobblehead has put forth her 25 cents worth. Rave on, oh queen of the keyboard!

#6.1 Sheila Tolley on 03/08/10 at 04:05 PM

Hold on a minute....my head bobbled off. I'll get mine from the floor while you retrieve yours from your anal canal.

#6.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/08/10 at 07:13 PM

I don't think Lothar will be able to reach that far up!

#6.2 David Rawlins on 03/08/10 at 06:55 PM

Wow, a new world record. Racist in two comments.

Your bigotry is showing Lothar. You've drank the kook-aide and now everyone is a racist who doesn't bow down to Odumbo. Your messiah has only one idea "Let's blame Bush till the end of our term"

I cited a good source for truth with the Drudge report. Here is another The Heritage Foundation.

#6.3 Sheila Tolley on 03/09/10 at 10:29 AM

I am no Racist. If obama were green, he would still be incompetent. So is white Pukelosi. They are Harlots of the taxpayers.

All obama knows to talk about is building roads and bridges. What the hell for? It is not as if there are industrial parks at the end of them. I wish he would jump on a road and ride until he needs a passport then build a bridge back to Kenya. The same place his birth certificate can be found. His "still here illegal immigrant Aunt" can help drive.

#7 Lothar on 03/09/10 at 07:20 AM

Don't you just love a lively debate, where opinions can be traded and ideas put forth without venom and ill will!
As far as my bigotry. You're probably right. But I'm a non discriminatory bigot. Call me Archie Bunker of the south. And as far as blaming Bush. You're absolutely right again. He is a deserter in time of war. He is a political lightweight swimming in a sea of sharks. he surrounded himself with thieves and criminals and ripped the Constitution to shreds. Now I'm not saying Obama hasn't done the same. Or has he?
And as far as retrieving my head from parts you seem to be familiar with, Bobble, perhaps you should try it some time. Might make your head fit your shoulders better.

#7.1 David Rawlins on 03/09/10 at 08:34 AM

Yes, I believe it was you who resorted to name calling. "Racist", "Bobblehead", "Bonzo". So before you call the pot black you might want to take a look in the mirror, kettle.

#7.2 Sheila Tolley on 03/09/10 at 10:10 AM

Strange? Lothar, rearranged spells Harlot. No telling where your head has been? I can't compete with your experience.

#7.2.1 Lothar on 03/11/10 at 06:33 PM

Hmmmm.... does it take one to know one???????

#7.2.1.1 Lothat on 03/12/10 at 08:09 AM

That last comment was uncalled for and I apologise

#8 Justin Cayce on 03/09/10 at 12:05 PM

www.lp.org - The Libertarian Party

Take the test on the opening page.

The Democrats are defunct ... Presidents Carter, Clinton and Obama have rendered them ineffective.

The Republicans are defunct ... Presidents Bush (the 41st) and Bush (the 43rd) have rendered them ineffective.

It is not the function of the Federal Government to guarantee the Citizens of the United States any Social Amenities.

#8.1 Anonymous on 03/09/10 at 01:26 PM

Food and healthcare are amenities? If the private sector would do its job and pay a living wage to employees of walmart, ingles, family dollar, wendy's etc...then the government would not have to step in to curb third world hunger in this great country.

Not everyone on public assistance is unemployed... and not everyone unemployed chooses to be. For years, companies are posting record profits while their employees are receiving public assistance. Republicans nor Democrats are doing anything about it because they are NOT the ones in control. They are all puppets.

#8.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/09/10 at 02:27 PM

Of course they are...

Do you really expect to be fed and cared for without putting any effort into it?

You talk about companies paying better, they pay what the market will accept. If they couldn't hire anyone at that pay scale, they would pay better.

The problem is that everyone wants something for nothing. They want to get a GED and get paid like someone with a High School diploma. They want a High School diploma but want to get paid like a college graduate. They want a college education but want to get paid like a doctor.

People in good paying jobs have worked to educate themselves in order to improve their lot in life.

If everyone had to work for food, clothing and health care, they would be motivated to get better educated.

Instead, you would cripple them by giving them handouts and letting them continue down the path to complete government reliance.

#8.1.1.1 Anonymous on 03/09/10 at 03:12 PM

There is a difference between an amenity and necessity. And I do not expect people who sit on their butt to have money to eat. But I am not talking about those people.

Not everyone has the capacity to go to college and earn a degree. You operate on the assumption that everyone has the brain power or basic skills to learn or do anything. That assumption is completely false. Some people are just slow. Keep reading the blog.

So, perhaps these people don’t get to buy a Bentley or a BMW but if they work at Wal-Mart 40 hours a week, shouldn’t they be able to sustain themselves and feed their family on that income? But they cannot and so they seek assistance. Do you expect people to live off of minimum wage? Would you like for your trash men to be college educated so they can afford to feed their family? How much are you willing to pay for your trash to be collected? These are just some examples of where the logic that everyone should go to college in order to afford basic “amenities” such as food and healthcare falls apart.
Perhpas the issue is the structure of the entire system. The markets are not God and should not be the deciding factor for every last thing. You should not have to go to college to feed yourself..but you should work.

#8.1.1.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/11/10 at 01:11 PM

My trash man has a college degree.

I take my own trash to the dump.

#8.1.2 Justin Cayce on 03/09/10 at 02:35 PM

You didn't go to www.lp.org and take the test, did you?

Living Wage? Do you mean like the Unions coerced General Motors into paying?

Remember, General Motors has now closed or sold the Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn and soon the Hummer Brands. Those jobs left the United States.

Remember, The Federal Government now owns more than 800 Billion Dollars in General Motors Stock.

Remember, the only revenue that the Federal Government of the United States has is the Tax Collected from Citizens just like you and me.

#8.2 David Rawlins on 03/09/10 at 01:45 PM

If the libertarian party was viable, I would vote libertarian.

I know, I know, they won't ever be if we don't vote for them. But, I don't see them taking a lot of House/Senate seats and if we don't do something to stop BO, we won't have a country left.

In the next elections, assuming we have shut down this democrat craziness. I will be voting libertarian.

#8.2.1 Anonymous on 03/10/10 at 04:43 PM

Libertarian Party not viable?

Did you get the memo about the Berlin Wall coming down in one day?

Did you get the memo about the Soviet Union going away in a very short period of time?

Perhaps the Libertarian Party will not be the vehicle that returns the United States to Liberty but all it takes is for the Citizens to unite and use our Constitutional Power of the Vote to peacefully change our Government.

The Republicans are no longer the answer.
The Democrats are no longer the answer.

It takes open dialogue and willingness to peacefully and lawfully oppose wrong politics.

#8.2.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/11/10 at 01:18 PM

1 - No they aren't not right now. I've voted libertarian every time they've had a candidate on the ballot so don't get me wrong.

2 & 3 - It's hard for me to tell because Anonymous is anonymous, but in this post you appear to applaud the efforts of Ronald Reagan and in 9.1.1 you tear hime down. Yes the result of many years of pressure and planning did result in those things happening but I don't see that sort of impetus in the Libertarian party right now. But I AM hopeful.

As far as the rest of your comments I am in 100% agreement. Dems and reps are done or the USA is; it is just a matter of time.

#8.2.1.2 Justin Cayce on 03/11/10 at 02:43 PM

TYPO ...

8.2.1 was mine ... 9.1.1 is not mine.

David & Sheila ... Keep on Carrying On !

#9 Anonymous on 03/09/10 at 02:17 PM

It is AMAZING how this man has been in office a year and people started screaming tyranny the DAY he was elected. Real sheep. He is not responsible for the mess we are in as a country and recovery is not expected overnight unless you are a moron. There is lag time for policies to take effect. Someone should perform a public service and school conservatives on the relationship between cause and effect, propaganda and mind control.

#9.1 David Rawlins on 03/09/10 at 02:35 PM

So finally, a liberal who admits that Bill Clinton's success was because of Ronald Reagan.

Anyone who still supports Hussein can't possibly consider anyone else a sheep or a moron.

BTW - Were you blaming Clinton or Bush for the 9/11 attacks? I'm betting Bush even though your boy BO has been in office longer.

#9.1.1 Anonymous on 03/11/10 at 12:13 PM

Ronald Regan? The deregulator?
He made it easier for the sytem to be abused by the powerful rich minority...thereby making themselves wealthier at the expense of others. Its not redistution of wealth if the wealth was obtained by immoral means to begin with.. by the very people that set up the system and want it to remain outside of government oversight. They do not want to be subject to any form of accountability or moral obligation.
I am for better government, not NO government (assuming the government speaks for the people and not big business, which is not always the case).

#9.1.1.1 David Rawlins on 03/11/10 at 01:31 PM

No government is better government. You can't possibly believe that the federal government is what the founding fathers intended.

#9.1.1.1.1 Sheila Tolley on 03/11/10 at 01:50 PM

Yeah, who could foresee that Kennedy clan?

#9.1.1.1.2 Anonymous on 03/11/10 at 04:39 PM

We need better government..people we elect are supposed to represent the voters wants and needs, not corporations. In a true democracy, the government IS the people. It is time we take our government back..pass campaign finance reform! It makes me laugh when people scream "less government"..when they are essentially saying, WE want less say in what goes on in America..give all the power to the corporations instead.."deregulate, no oversight or accountability!!" LMFAO.
It is humorous that there are people who earn less than 1 million a year and vote republican. I cannot wrap my head around that.
This problem goes all the way back to the beginning of time..class warfare. The rich would not be rich if there were no poor..and you people who make between 50,000 and 1 million a year are not rich..lol.

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