Firefighters support chief Henderson

Pike County Fire Chief Danny Henderson

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Volunteer firefighter and first responder Robert Gresham – and others – rose to the defense of fire chief Danny Henderson, saying what happened in Clayton County does not have any bearing on his performance in Pike County.

"Regardless of what happened in Clayton, it's not a problem here in Pike," said Gresham. "Chief Henderson has brought all Pike firefighters together."

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#1 Fellow Firefighter on 02/24/10 at 07:15 AM

We or you or whoever can complain all you want about Danny Henderson and I am saddened what transpired in Clayton County with Danny and his career up there and even if Danny did make a mistake we all make mistakes and then sometimes with have to suffer for our mistakes intentional or non intentional. I have know Danny for a very long time and know where his heart is. His Family and God are first and foremost in his life. He was a former Marine so he served this country proudly and protected our own rights of freedom.
I have not talked to Danny since what transpired in Clayton County by I hope the directions he wants to go in his future work related careers that it goes as planned.
Danny as many of you should remember is still a Volunteer Fire Chief. I dont know if some of you are jealous or just dont understand what Danny has meant to the Pike County Fire Department. I am not a Volunteer but I have talked to many of the Volunteers and they really like Danny and all he has done for the Fire Department since his arrival. Is there going to be some politics, of course there is that is part of the job and Danny tries to handle it the best he can. There is so much behind the scenes standards that have to be met and some many other details we just dont realize goes into the incredible jo he has been doing.
I know he has a open door policy and anytime you see his Fire Chief Car parked at the Zebulon Square just stop by and talk to him I know he is receptive to all discussions pro and con.
I for one wish Danny the best of Luck.

A Old Friend

#2 Wrong answer! on 02/24/10 at 12:39 PM

Danny Henderson is a PAID volunteer.
He was not fired by a single individual Fire Chief. He case went before a civil service review board of five.
Now Henderson will have to have more than the measly $18,000 given to him for "pocket change" by Parrish Swift and Steve Marro.
"Incredible"? Hell no. If this 22 year Lt was doing a incredible job he would not be at the BOC office holding his hand out.

#3 taxpayer on 02/24/10 at 01:44 PM

Well I guess that a half truth is better than nothing. But a half truth is still lying in my book. Henderson heard the call, was the closest unit, refused to run the call, and now he is unemployed. Only a substandard ff, paid or volley would engage in this type of behavior. PCVFD is welcome to have this type of employee. Yes, it directly reflects on the type of government in place in Pike. Just look at whom they have employed in years past, a revolving door of losers. Thank goodness that our Sheriff’s department and local troopers are professional and honest. Emphasis on honest.

#3.1 Tough lesson on 02/24/10 at 06:59 PM

Right on taxpayer.
Marro, Fry, Mayor Murphy gave us Dawn Danielson as a expert planner. They never told us she was a expert at probation and felony bad checks. They did tell us she was trained in Clayton Co.
Marro, Fry, Parrish Swift gave us a 22 year Lt from Clayton Co as a paid volunteer.
The $18,000 question is, Did the interview take place in rm 104 Comfort Inn of Jonesboro?

#3.1.1 haha on 02/26/10 at 10:11 PM

sheriff's department honest and professional, now thats a joke

#4 Wrong Answer on 02/24/10 at 02:13 PM

When did he go to the BOC holding his hand out. Lets hear some facts? I mean Facts. Lets see if you can back this claim up or just spew false venom

Also when did his case go before the civil service board of five. Lets hear so exact facts on this, date also. Let hear it we await.

Let see if you can back up your WRONG ANSWER? I dont think so. but we will see.

#4.1 wrong answer on 02/27/10 at 09:53 AM

no problem at all. Just ask your failed Lt to open up his personel file to the citizens of Pike County that are paying his sorry butt $18,000 to be a volunteer. Henderson has Marro, JC and Swift written all over him.

#5 taxpayer on 02/24/10 at 04:07 PM

” I admire Henderson, again he is lying to you in Pike and you’ll believe it. We laugh and we laugh because he is still trying to justify losing a his job. Sorry, he did not retire, he was 12 plus years from retiring. Embarrassed so, that he “politically correctly” quit. A Marine “ Sempre Fi” don’t disgrace the Marine Corp. In his four years he never was a real Marine “Semper Fi Hoorah”

Several quotes about Henderson that the BOC needs to remember:

1) A fire lieutenant has no authority to set departmental policy, practice or procedure, much less supplant them with a personal and flawed belief system.”

2)“I find Lt. Henderson’s response to the facts and allegations weak and unconvincing.”

3)“I find him unfit to fill any leadership billet within our department and have determined to reduce him in rank to firefighter III.”

4)“Our department exists for no other purpose in this world, than to respond to people in need in the shortest time possible.”

Distort, bend, twist, circumvent the truth all you want, you have to look at yourself in the mirror and face that man. These words will always follow you. Pike County is your speed, so, God Speed Danny!

#6 Anonymous on 02/24/10 at 06:29 PM

It is easy to make the claim that "Firefighters support" him, if there are even only 2 out of all of us that will claim to. But I assure you, the majority of us do NOT.

#6.1 JC supports on 02/24/10 at 07:59 PM

Danny is supported by JC but only because he can't take defeat. Why do you think JC is all up in arms for another SPLOST? He failed. JC should have told Lt. Danny to get a contract of Marro Gold before he accepted the volunteer $18,000 pocket change job.

#6.1.1 taxpayer/citizen on 02/25/10 at 10:12 AM

Your posting is correct.

JC can't let it go. SPLOST nor that Danny is not good for PC. What a shame. When the new CM comes and BOC are elected there may be change? I have no ill will, just want what’s is best for my tax dollars.

I will campaign even harder against the splost this time and even against JC if he was to run for district 1. Nothing personal, but a commissioner can't be that blatant about special interest and personal feeling towards citizens/friends.

#6.2 BOC meeting on 02/24/10 at 08:32 PM

I saw about fifty ff show up in support of the Chief at the BOE meeting Tues nite. Others were there from his church and neighborhood. Quit spreading lies.

#6.2.1 Anonymous on 02/25/10 at 03:33 AM

We don't have fifty VFF in Pike county, lol!

Most were there to see the show

#6.2.1.1 BOC meeting on 02/25/10 at 06:19 AM

That's not true either. So tell me, how many DO we have, smarty pants?

#6.2.1.1.1 David Rawlins on 02/25/10 at 08:38 AM

I didn't count the fire fighters in attendance but it looked more like 15, not 50.

#7 BOC Meeting on 02/25/10 at 08:19 AM

BOC Meeting
I would not pay much attention to Annoymous he or she or IT is nothing but a pot stirrer, they come on here and never have facts to back anything up they are obviously Jealous of Danny probably upset he did not give them their Junior Fire Deputy Coloring books. I mean you know and I know there is more then 50 Volunteers, they could be a former fellow employee of Danny or they could not hack it as a Junior Volunteer in Pike. I know enough to know Danny does enough behind the scenes that he is well worth 18,000 a year for Pike County.
BOC
Here we all anxiously await another dumb response from some uneducated poster.

#8 Anita on 02/25/10 at 01:14 PM

PJR
Did my post offend anyone?

#9 anonymous FFC on 02/25/10 at 07:28 PM

Call it the Marro/Swift/Henderson Fire Tax plan.
Marro gets dumped by the BOC.
Henderson gets dumped by Clayton Co FD.
Swift will be dumped by the voters.
Pike taxpayers get dunked on.

Captain Riley supports Henderson. Riley should be supporting a Health and Wellness program for the firefighters and target weight loss. A fat firefighter cannot carry out his duties.

Henderson should do the county he "loves" so much a favor and resign. Stop taking volunteer money of $18,000. Tyree never took a nickel and Captain Tyree was a true professional without the baggage Henderson is carrying around. Henderson cannot survive under the cloak of lies and mistrust.

#9.1 Belly 'B' Gone Inc. on 02/26/10 at 11:29 AM

Special offer for firefighters, code enforcement officers, law enforcement personel and Jaws of Life Operators. We are located just south of the Square and recommended highly by Willis Dump Truck Inc. First 50 lbs lost is free. See us today for a workup.

#10 Butts County on 02/26/10 at 08:44 AM

Lt Henderson, come on over to Butts County and look for a job. Our county seems to attract those rejects from Clayton County. Dawn Danielson might help you find a real job. Dawn is the oil changer for Fast Lube. Bring Parrish Swift, Steve Marro, JC and Tommy Powers with you, they don't have a job. Lube Up and good luck.

#10.1 Fast Lube # 272 on 03/01/10 at 05:24 PM

Dawn Danielson is no longer the oil changer for Fast Lube. She has been promoted to Lube Tech III. She invites all friends to stop by for coupons and discounts. Every 6th oil change free.

#10.1.1 Firetrucks on 03/01/10 at 08:47 PM

Can you service a pump truck?

#10.1.2 Correction code enforcement? on 03/03/10 at 09:44 AM

I thought the code enforcement officer was Dawn Danielson. Dawn Danielson still works at planning and development office in Pike County, she answered the phone there yesterday.

#10.1.2.1 check your record on 03/04/10 at 05:28 PM

The woman that takes calls at planning office is Sandy Dickerson. Sandy is the office clerk this week while the Administrative Assistant is taking classes in Augusta. David Allen has to justify her salary someway or have commissioner Willis on his behind.

#11 Straw vote on 02/26/10 at 11:49 AM

The BOC should take a straw vote from the real volunteer firefighters on Henderson. They will find he is not supported by those he claims to lead. His only support comes from those members of the BOC that thrust him into a position way above his capabilities. Soon he will fail and then we will hear lame brained excuses why. One excuse will not be Pike County's laddertruck could not make a U turn.

#12 If Lt Henderson on 02/26/10 at 02:04 PM

Say Henderson did not have the promise of being a paid volunteer in Pike County and with the promise of it soon being a paid fulltime job would he have turned down a fireman III in ClaytonCo?

Got the Fire Tax passed.
Next make it $90,000 from the SPLOST JC.

#12.1 Thank you CPA on 02/26/10 at 05:29 PM

Could not have been said better.
JC are you listening?
You might want to pack your bag and go with Henderson and Parrish Swift. Check with Marro, you might catch a ride with him back to New York. He has snowchains.

#13 CPA on 02/26/10 at 03:14 PM

I can't figure out the math! Some of you all PCVFF's please help me.

1)FF Henderson @ CCFD was making right at $70k
2)took a pay cut because of a DEMOTION
3)had a full medical package
4)75% retirement package
5)COLA adjustments
6)merit increases
7)free uniforms
8)medical on retirement

Now,he lost all this to be the fire chief in Pike for 18k. WOW, I guess the car and fuel card made up the difference. I guess that wanting to be in charge so bad is worth the loss.

I fell off the turnip truck but holy crap, that is just stupid. For all of the ff's that follow his lead please don't do the same, keep your day jobs.

You better go to Butts, cause in November PCVFD will have a real vol. chief that will not take a penny and do it because he loves the job.

#14 taxpayer7 on 02/26/10 at 09:52 PM

It's always interesting to me to see how many people try to make assumptions without all the facts.
At this point, the only facts that any of us know is that the BOC voted to give Chief Henderson a small annual salary of $18K. Why? None of us really know. His supporters would say because of his dedication and the great job he does for Pike - his opposition would say because he has "buddies" on the pike BOC. Personally, I don't care. I see many more ways our tax money is spent unwisely - this isn't one of them - let's talk about teachers if you want to discuss a real issue.
As a county we depend on volunteer firefighters to protect our homes and property. I know many of them and greatly appreciate their sacrifice of time and energy. I like the idea that our fire chief is not completely a volunteer. Wasn't there an issue with Chief Tyree not responding to calls? Wasn't that reason he is no longer the Chief? When that was reported - my thought was he is a volunteer - you can't expect any more.
Second fact, Chief Henderson lost his job at Clayton County as a result of a determination that he did not respond to a call when he should have. Right or wrong, his employer chose to demote him and Chief Henderson choose to resign. Those who wish to trash him should consider the fact that they don't have access to the rest of his service record with Clayton. As so many of you have pointed out, Clayton has gone way down hill in recent years. Personally, I'm not too trusting of the management there. So, having actually talked with Chief Henderson and having seen his work ethic and strong morals, I tend to believe him over the powers that be in Clayton county. I expect that if his service record was open to the public you would see a lot more positives than this negative.
So, do you think he suddenly expects his position in Pike to become a full-time fully paid position. I doubt it - he has been around Pike Co long enough to want to avoid the politics here like the plague. I expect he will seek full-time employeement in another county that has a PAID fire department (Spalding, Upson, etc) and continue to serve Pike in a volunteer capacity until he gets so sick of the political swamp around here that he gives it up.
I noticed several of you trying to make it appear that his "pay" with Pike was replacing his Clayton Co pay. Have none of you ever left a job when you felt a situation was badly handled or when you felt your talents and dedication would be better appreciated elsewhere? Could you have continued to work for a department that made the statements made by Clayton Co after you had dedicated 22years to it's service.
I know this is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm afraid the biggest problem that Pike Co has is all the drama and bad-mouthing that goes on here. Yes, our BOC has made errors and I'm sure they'll make more - Yes, it's up to us taxpayers to make sure they are held accountable. Yes, all the volunters in our fire department deserve to be paid (but reality is no one in the county wants to pay for a paid fire department) But NO - everything is not a conspiracy.

#14.1 WOW Drama Queen on 02/27/10 at 07:23 AM

Get you and the dog a ride in the Chief's car for that one, might even let you play with the lights and whistle. That's not all, early tomorrow morning you can have two biscuits with chocolate syrup.

#14.2 supporter on 02/27/10 at 08:07 AM

Thank you for a well written and well thought out opinion. This is a breath of fresh air.

#14.3 Anon E Mouse on 02/28/10 at 08:16 AM

Better get ready for a surprise when FC Henderson is told to go elsewhere. He has done no where near as much as his predecessors. He stepped in to a position that was already covered. He did not do anything to get the ISO lowered. All that was in place before he came around. Henderson had nothing to do with the new stations, new trucks, anything that applies to the ISO. As for former Chief Tyree's not responding to calls, if I remember correctly, that was responding to phone calls from the CM or the BOC secretaries. When someone is working full time to pay the bills and a volunteer position requires (as stated by the former CM) that you drop what you are doing, then a response to a phone call is nothing. Ask any of the secretaries in the BOC and you will find out that when calls were placed and voice mails left, a response was made. I know Chief Tyree personally and I'm sure if you ask JC, Trisha and several others, he may not have been the most likeable person, but he had the best interest of Pike and it's citizens at heart. I for one am glad that he is still around and on a volunteer roster. He was not too proud to take a lower position in Pike and still help when he can. Unlike others who have let the county dictate what they do (I'm talking about the new Chiefs and officers of the PCFD), Tyree stood up to the BOC and CM until he could take no more of the POLITICAL BS. I would love to see him run for Swift's BOC spot and then maybe we can have someone in the BOC who has nothing but compassion for the citizens of Pike.

#14.3.1 taxpayer7 on 03/01/10 at 04:19 PM

I agree that Chief Tyree did a good job when he was chief in Pike. By no means, did I intend to imply otherwise. The point I was trying to make is that I feel the Chief should not be strictly volunteer. You can't expect anyone that is a volunteer to respond everytime. They are VOLUNTEERING their time when they can. I also know Mr. Tyree and his family and I greatly appreciate the time and energy he put into the PCFD.

#15 AC on 02/27/10 at 07:24 AM

taxpayer #7 has it goin' on!!! Well said all the way around! I was beginning to wonder if there was any voice coming out of Pike Co. onto this forum that didn't make me ashamed of my hometown!
I've know the Henderson family for years and I promise there isn't another one better. All around wonderful, genuine people. To all those bashing on Danny, you need to know that he would still RUSH to your emergency (big or small) even though you have no use for him. That's just who he is and that voice of truth is what matters and it's how he sleeps at night... PEACEFULLY.

#16 Ghost Writer on 02/27/10 at 03:22 PM

To the idiot Henderson supporters, you ought to know that he is self posting. DUH!!!!!!!

First hand knowledege from inside station #6

#16.1 ha ha on 02/27/10 at 04:43 PM

To sta. 6, we was wondering if anyone had the guts to come out and say it

#16.2 taxpayer7 on 03/01/10 at 04:28 PM

I haven't read anything on here that sounds even remotely like Chief Henderson. If you are referring to my post - yes, I can write well and speak my mind clearly which I'm sure he can as well, but since I'm a woman - you are way off base. Have to ask since you are clearly in station #6 - are you lobbying to get the job of Chief? If so, be ready for everyone to blast you too.

#16.2.1 Anonymous on 03/02/10 at 04:39 AM

Ha ha, nice try

#17 Remain calm on 02/27/10 at 04:39 PM

JC, Don Collins, Danny Henderson are in control. We will get the next SPLOST past with no problem. We can take care of Fire Chief Executive Henderson's salary without SPLOST. Remember we got the Fire Tax passed and that will suffice until November. We are here to serve the taxpayer.

#18 Give it up on 02/27/10 at 06:09 PM

Henderson, you should throw in the towel now. JC, Trish, Parrish and Don Collins cannot take your hand and rescue you. Don't have to exit like Marro did.

#19 Bedtime on 02/27/10 at 06:58 PM

Gotta make the biscuits.
Ya'll come.
You know where.

#20 this is awful! on 02/27/10 at 08:15 PM

All I have to say is that I would much rather see my tax dollars go towards something that could help my family or others in the future in case of a fire. The volunteers risk their lives to possibly save yours, and life is priceless. I don't think any of these people should have to work for free but they choose to. Maybe the county should include a full-time fire station or 2 in the budget and pay all these people a little something. I wouldn't mind my money going to a service I could possibly have to use one day. My grandfather was a fireman for 42 years and I am so thankful that he is still here today after all the hard work he has done for others.

#20.1 Anonymous on 02/28/10 at 05:41 AM

We are paid $20 a call for fuel reimbursement, but no salary or hourly pay

#20.1.1 Anonymous on 02/28/10 at 07:17 AM

Blake or Robby by any chance?

#21 Burno, the hero with no cape on 02/28/10 at 08:25 AM

Poser alert! We're paid $10 a call for mileage, fuel, and wear-and-tear.

#21.1 I ain't scared on 02/28/10 at 04:36 PM

No show Burno, you ran that mouth a few weeks ago, I called you out and like the little meow you are you did not show.......

go figure,

#21.1.1 Burno, the hero with no cape on 02/28/10 at 05:31 PM

You did, REALLY??????? I guess I was right, huh, my Shady Little Sister? You have much to say from behind your murky names. Consider anger counseling. EAP. It's haunted you for years anyway.

#22 Ghost Writer on 02/28/10 at 08:28 AM

It just doesn't add up. Henderson's business management plan is like a defunct spreadsheet:

1)failed cable business
2)failed irrigation business
3)failed lawn business
4)failed firefighter career
5)is PCVFD going to be next?

This is am impressive track record. Why can't yous people see the problem too.Nothing personal just the truth!!!!

Inside Edition from station #6

#23 Biscuit on 02/28/10 at 09:01 AM

SUPPORT FIRE CHIEF HENDERSON
SUPPORT A NEW SPLOST
SUPPORT THE JUDICIAL COMPLEX
SUPPORT THE FIRE TAX PLAN
SUPPORT PARRISH SWIFT
SUPPORT DON COLLINS

#24 So tired on 02/28/10 at 12:09 PM

Pelosi, Reid, Obama !
JC, Don Collins, Parrish Swift, Henderson !
SPLOST !

The taxpayers say NO!

Yous peoples just ram it down our throats.

Time for all yous peoples to go.

JC please do not delete this will of the people!

#25 Deleter King Cat on 03/01/10 at 08:45 PM

Delete...Delete...
Ban...Ban...Ban...
Edit...Edit...Edit......
Oh crap on a biscuit...my buttons don't work on this site!

#25.1 Attention attention on 03/02/10 at 06:22 AM

do not eat the brown biscuits
we must look after one another
do not eat the brown biscuits

#26 Help us on 03/05/10 at 11:14 AM

Support the pipeline for Yancey. We need it, Collins, JC Henderson, Swift, Mangham, Powers all support it. Willis needs to get on board. Let's Make It Happen before we get a new local county manager.

#27 JC Henderson on 03/06/10 at 12:20 PM

Our non-paid volunteers are trained on high pressure gas lines. If there was an accident our non-paid firefighters could handle it. We would not have to call in paid professionals from Clayton County. Support the Pikeline.

#27.1 Question on 03/06/10 at 07:02 PM

you maybe trained to handle the pipeline accident but will the chief let you respond? he has a history of not responding to calls. maybe the action plan is just to call atl gas.

the boc can take the 18k (paid volly ....lol) and but it towards the down payment on the pipeline. just a thought.

inside station #6

#27.1.1 JC Henderson on 03/08/10 at 11:17 AM

You guys can consider yourselves on restriction and you will be remembered on your report of preformance. You will not be getting a nickel for fuel reimbursement. Just because you are non-paid volunteers does not mean we can't show you the door! Put a plug in it and stay off the computer or you will be transferred to Clayton.

#28 Tater on 03/08/10 at 06:52 PM

I don't care who you are that is funny.

Gawl leeeee...... shazam! You know that chief henderson was a marine like gomer. He is going to put us on report. he did not know how to keep his real job what makes you think he can find out whom i am to report?

inside #6

#28.1 JC Henderson on 03/11/10 at 10:16 AM

It is easy when we are supplied your IP number by another local blog site. The PJR will not give them out but inside#6 turn in all your gear, leave your chess game there. 24 hours or I will have the proper authorities go get it.

#29 Incoming County Manager on 03/09/10 at 02:32 PM

When Tommy Burnsed takes back the Pike County Managers position (and I do pray he does)the end will be put to the paid volunteer fire chief and the paid code enforcer. Mr. Burnsed has the experience, he lives and his heart is in Pike. He can speak english, no more NuHumpshu spoken here. Mr. Burnsed will cut the fat freeloaders sitting on their butts with nothing to do. Get behind our locals for a down to earth change.

#30 The NuHumpshu idiot ? on 03/09/10 at 03:50 PM

Gotta remember the Carpetbagger never adapted to a rural area, he never learned our language, he thought no one in Pike County was smart enough to work here. He relied on Clayton County or Spalding County for the brains to work here. Gotta remember Dawn Danielson, Sandra Dickerson, Danny Henderson, Alex Pierson and Roosevelt Willis all Clayton folks, Freight Train Jeannie Haddock Lamar County. Time to hire only from Pike County. Hire someone who pays taxes here.

#31 Inside Edition on 03/13/10 at 03:16 PM

hey (chief) lol...ff henderson will you take me off repor? or was i ever on report. your approval rating is shrinking like obama's. but you already know that but will not admit it either will you. come november your gone. enjoy the ride for now.

#6

#32 Anon E Mouse on 03/27/10 at 09:53 AM

Wonder where the Chief? has been? I have been by the BOC office for the past 2 weeks and never once have I seen his car parked out front like in the past. Is he out trying to find a new job or just laying low?

#32.1 Anon2 on 03/27/10 at 02:20 PM

Maybe it is time for you to get your eyes checked? Look again, he's been there.

#32.2 Jeff Sanders on 03/27/10 at 07:57 PM

Maybe you overlooked. Maybe he was taking care of fire dept business. Maybe, since he is only a partime employee he was home with his family. Maybe he was on duty at his fulltime job.!!!! Regardless, can you fill his shoes? Do you have the training, experience and will to fill those shoes!Until you have filled our shoes, don't be so quick to judge! I support this man and I don't even live in Pike County and have only met him face to face once!!!! Support him, give the man a chance, otherwise, ask him for his shoes!

#32.2.1 Anonymous on 03/28/10 at 07:05 AM

Oh thats real good. "I don't live in Pike county, and I don't even know the man, but I want you, who lives there and has to put up with him, to blindly support him"

How credible. (not)

Bring back Tyree!

#33 PCFF on 03/27/10 at 03:14 PM

Maybe he will leave before the elections. Parrish and Wills will be gone as well, come November. We ( PCVFF's) now have seen through the smoke screne and I think several others have too. I guess that this will be another lesson learned by us all.

We were here before danny and will be here after he is gone.

#33.1 supporter on 03/28/10 at 07:30 AM

With the problems Pike County and our country face, you surely have settled on a subject that shows your grudge.
Work on your own problems before b---itching about someone else who actually has a good life. You need to get a good woman and make friends with the Lord.

#34 PCFF on 03/30/10 at 11:37 AM

What is the matter PJR? A clean post was deleted because it was unfavorable towards Henderson? You are getting to be just like JC on the poll-cat. delete/delete.

Journalism 101, the public needs to know the truth. Liked or disliked by the news outlet.

The smoke will settle one day and you too will be amazed by the truth.

#35 PCFF on 03/30/10 at 03:06 PM

Thanks for posting this one. :)

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